RE: Bentley Turbo R: Under the hammer

RE: Bentley Turbo R: Under the hammer

Thursday 17th April 2014

Bentley Turbo R: Under the hammer

A staunchly old-school Bentley that Keith continues to be tempted by



Okay, I admit it. I've a huge soft spot for British cars, and as I get older, I'm learning to appreciate some of life's little luxuries. But unlike some of my more Roverish fixations, there's no shame in admitting I'd not kick a Turbo R off my driveway. In fact, it's a car that's on my all-time wish list. I suspect this PH Hero is on a few of yours, too.

This view clears outside lanes
This view clears outside lanes
The good news is that the car that saved Rolls-Royce/Bentley during the 1980s and 90s, is not only a serious bargain at today's prices, but is actually gaining a fair amount of kudos on the back of its understated looks, huge performance and gentleman's club interior. The classifieds aren't short of good examples to choose from - take your pick from PH's best between £6,000 and £20,000. I did wonder for a moment whether our Dutch friend selling this '87 example might consider doing a swap for my similarly aged Delta Integrale. But sanity came a-knocking all too quickly.

But what makes the 300hp Turbo R so special - and quintessentially British - is that it's swift, but never feels so, and is supremely relaxing. They handle, too. Bentley chose to fit stiffened, lower suspension, which means you can really attack corners - your main impediment to really fast progress being how slippery the unsupportive leather seats are. Former colleague Mark Dixon once drove me home in the Midlands from Dover in his on a mixture of motorways and A-roads, and I swear I've never beaten his time.

Not all at sea through corners either
Not all at sea through corners either
Consequently, for the past few years, I've been watching Turbo Rs closely, waiting for my piggy bank to fill-up enough to take the plunge. They seem to rock up to auctions, command low estimates, and then sell for extremely tempting, amounts of money. And it's the theatre of the auction ring that fortune favours the brave.

Think I'm joking? Take this 1989 car that Barons has set for the block on April 28, and which could be worth a punt. It's simply described as complete, with history, but no MoT. I might be shallow for mentioning something so banal as colour but in black it looks sinister, which is perfect for filling reps' rear-view mirrors with its grille and the twin-cooling fans behind. Barons puts an estimate of £3,500-£4,500, and if it goes for anywhere near that - with due consideration for MoT and service - I reckon that could still be a huge bargain.

Barons' car has an estimate of just £4K
Barons' car has an estimate of just £4K
OK, so if you hoof it everywhere then expect less than 15mpg. And if you're super-gentle, you might just get it to nudge 20mpg. But is fuel consumption such a big deal on a cherished weekend plaything? Perhaps it's this, combined with the fact you need a huge parking space or garage to house it, that scares people off, keeping values low. Their loss.

But I'll not smile while I recommend you buy these cars on the back of a promised value uplift in months to come. Because it's probably not going to happen. As I said, I've been watching these cars in all types of condition woofle through the auction ring since the early 2000s reliably fetching between £5,000-£15,000, and that's where they remain today.

And who wouldn't want this interior?
And who wouldn't want this interior?
Auction house H&H, for instance, has processed many through the years. If you compare the 1984 Turbo with upgrades that it sold for £7,500 in June 2000 with the 1993 example that went this time last year, with 73,000 miles on the clock, and good history, for £7,910 you'll see where I am coming from.

But, ye gads, as a car to make you feel special as you drive, soothing your troubles as the rest of the world road-rages around you, nothing comes close to matching a Bentley Turbo R for the money. Forgive me while I drop into full-blown cliche mode for a second - but for the price of run-down Ford Focus, you can drive a true great that's perfect for that trip to Le Mans. And one thing you can be sure of is that it's not going to drop any further in value than it already has. Well, I hope so...

   
   


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V8 FOU

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2,971 posts

147 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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I bought one last week. Always buy the post '92 with the better 4 speed gearbox. And post '96 with the Zytec management.
Ultimate car. Mine came with new tyres and brakes, 75K on the clock and some tax for £8K!

This is going to be my new track car........

RESSE

5,698 posts

221 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Wonderful motor cars.

Our Turbo RL (1993) has just passed the 170,000 mile mark.


LewisR

678 posts

215 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Oh yes.

You can keep your Renault 106 Megane Cup Trophy Shield Badge tizz-box thing.

E30Addict

825 posts

172 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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cloud9

I have always held an irrational desire to own a Turbo R. One day...

Matt UK

17,688 posts

200 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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A car I'd like to borrow, but would never own one.

LayZ

1,625 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Very appealing. Need a bigger garage. Perfect Le Mans bus?

vincegail

2,463 posts

155 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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KeithAdams said:
But for the price of run-down Ford Focus, you can drive a true great that's perfect for that trip to Le Mans.
That is exactly what I intend to do! Expect a Belgium licensed Turbo R on Tertre Rouge or Houx in the near future biggrin



LayZ said:
Very appealing. Need a bigger garage. Perfect Le Mans bus?
In my eyes: Yes!

GeordieInExile

683 posts

120 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Just a fantastically cool car. I'd have one of these in my fantasy garage and use it to blag entrance to swanky City parties and dinners...

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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The way these pick up their skirts and fly is just laugh out loud amazing... Ill take mine in Wildberry with biscuit please.

kwak

210 posts

152 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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I've been aching after one of these for years already, but maintenance costs and a lack of adequate parking keep them out of reach for me.

One day, hopefully

PATTERNPART

693 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Nice. Very nice. I'd make sure mine had a "normal" number plate.

Matt UK

17,688 posts

200 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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PATTERNPART said:
Nice. Very nice. I'd make sure mine had a "normal" number plate.
I saw a tatty one of these with a few 'charactars' onboard, smoking around South London a little while back with a BAZ or DAZ numberplate... I actually felt quite sorry for the old girl...

wotnot

383 posts

174 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Always wanted one of these. Ridiculously good value. Unfortunately SWMBO, who's normally very good when it comes to tolerating my toys, refuses point blank to allow one on the drive.

BrightonEd

76 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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How can they extract so little power from such a vast engine?
May be cheap to buy but staggeringly ruinous to run, one assumes (I may stand corrected on that).
Landlord's car.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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The garage I use had one of these (non-turbo though) from October last year until last week. It needed a little bit of tinkering in order to pass the MOT, at which point the owners are planning on transferring the private plate and selling it on. I think it was their 3rd car and rarely used.

As there was no rush, it was left to the garage to work on it on an as-and-when-basis when they had the time. I was stood in the small yard at the back where it was parked up next to my D2 S8 (which it dwarfed) chatting to the mechanic about it and how there's something about them. He told me that they'd spent £120 on petrol in 5 months simply moving it from the yard to the workshop; a distance of maybe 40 yards each way. They'd even checked for fuel leaks as they couldn't quite believe the amount of fuel they'd used.

V8 FOU

Original Poster:

2,971 posts

147 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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BrightonEd said:
How can they extract so little power from such a vast engine?
May be cheap to buy but staggeringly ruinous to run, one assumes (I may stand corrected on that).
Landlord's car.
380BHP so little? It's the huge torque that does the acceleration. Not that quick off the line, but floor it at 90mph (on a private road, of course) and it changes down TWO gears and flies - into 5th @ 120.

I do believe the old adage of "if I have to explain you wouldn't understand" applies here.

Not too ruinous to run. On the later cars 20+ mpg not impossible, and plenty of s/h parts available.

Still, let's keep the reputation going so those in the know benefit.

Landlords? There's a Shadow 1 parked locally on a pub forecourt - been there for at least 20years.....

jimfoz

66 posts

170 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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I know several people who have had these, but they never kept them for very long. It wasn't the fuel consumption or general service costs necessarily, but the additional stuff like the hydraulic servicing and problems with the hand built 1970's climate control system. As they say buy the best you can afford not a £4500 auction smoker - I would go for a post '96 model

Furyblade_Lee

4,107 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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BrightonEd said:
How can they extract so little power from such a vast engine?
May be cheap to buy but staggeringly ruinous to run, one assumes (I may stand corrected on that).
Landlord's car.
They extract torque not power

MaserBob

31 posts

122 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Torque is said to be 486 lb ft at 2,500. Peak power is at 4,500 so that torque curve is lower and flater than a rattle snakes belly. Although the 4 speed is better something about the column gear change really suits the car.

sad61t

1,100 posts

210 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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One of the local garages has an Arnage Red Label from 2000 for the same price as an adequately specified 3-series. Astonishing 835 Newton meters of torque! And paint you actually enjoy looking at instead of the Bavarian citrus oil that passes for paint these days.