Is it time to restrict HGV's to inside lane?
Discussion
0000 said:
I think it's time we widen some of our motorways. I'd be for this as a temporary measure, or using the hard shoulder as a live lane, but we need more capacity on some stretches.
Bad idea, hard shoulder saves lives.Widening motorways takes years. See M25. It has to be done but there's no quick way.
If everyone drives as they should there won't be a problem. It only takes 0.1% of HGV drivers to be bad to f
k up everybody's day. Ozzie Osmond said:
They don't need to be restricted to one lane - they need to be told very clearly that you don't start an overtaking manoeuvre unless you have a speed differential of more than 0.00025 mph!
Time to stop the madness of "elephant racing".
this can get silly. Turning 3 lanes effectively into one at peak times as well. Very aggravating as it starts off a chain reaction of braking by people driving too close! Time to stop the madness of "elephant racing".
The difference is car drivers have to be careful as they can both come off worse. Lorry drivers (in a minority of cases) seem to regard their size as making them bomb proof, regardless of the outcome to the car driver. In the past three weeks I've been punted into Lane 3 by a lorry who wanted my road space in Lane 2, plus an emergency brake.
The lack of policing on the motorways means that it is currently a free for all.
The lack of policing on the motorways means that it is currently a free for all.
Rawwr said:
I predict 17 pages.
you could be right, I mean its not like it hasn't been done too death before.
I like the rail comment early on, ha, ha, ha, ha.
like it or not, the most cost effective way to move goods around, and probably the most versatile is still by truck. Rail can play its part, but its never going to be king, not in our lifetime.
sadly it is a fact that truck driving standards do seem to have gone downhill even I can't deny that. I hate the elephant racers as much as everybody else, and would not object to certain restrictions on dual carriageway s and 2 lane motorways at peak times, but don't agree with a blanket ban.
magooagain said:
All freight should be on rails. Simple really.
I used to work as an export planner for a road freight company. Most customers need goods yesterday and don't hold much stock. The most direct way to get goods delivered quickly is by truck.We trialled using rail freight to get a load of tiles from Italy to Glasgow. Absolute disaster. The train broke down in Italy. It took them 3 days to send someone to fix it. You can't just unhitch the trailer and send another tractor unit to pick it up. The train got to France where there was a rail strike, for a week. Then when it came to the UK, it couldn't come direct to Scotland, it had to go to a rail yard in Wimbledon to get the cargo split up. Our tiles were then loaded onto a train to Scotland a few days later. The driver got to Carlisle and wasn't given clearance to complete the journey that night...so he went home! (Minus the train). Another couple of days until the train company got another driver. It gets to Scotland but has to go to the freight yard at Bellshill to be unloaded. Another few days before we were permitted to collect it by truck and take it to the customer. It took a month to get this stuff here. Every day of that month we got calls from a raging customer.
The next two loads were brought by road. 3 days Italy to Scotland. Picked up direct, delivered direct. No hassle and we were in contact with the driver at all times. Railfreight is rubbish unless you are carrying masses of bulk products that aren't in a hurry to a delivery point with its own railhead. Otherwise its pretty pointless.
I don't think trucks should be restricted to the inside lane of motorways. These guys have a hard enough job to do in a world of customers who dictate book in times and have been known to refuse deliveries if 10 minutes late. There are some bad drivers out there, maybe the police should be clamping down on them, so the majority of good truck drivers aren't tarred with the same brush.
keslake said:
Following yesterdays tragic accident and the arrest of an HGV driver maybe the above option
should at least be trialled, especially in any roadwork zones.
<scratches head> And there was me, thinking that the aerial photos of the incident showed both trucks being in lane 1, with no roadworks present.should at least be trialled, especially in any roadwork zones.
We don't know the cause yet. If you have been in any trucks they have huge blind spots which the EU is trying to fix with legislation. So sometimes when car drivers sneek up they can be completely unaware you are there. Google fifth gear to see just how bad they are.
I am not a truck driver, but when towing my track car on the trailer, if I need to pull out to overtake you have to plan in advance as some powerfully built director with a can of redbull. will ignore the signals and still try to keep you in land 1.
When I drive if I see a truck closing up on something else, I flash and pull out so they can keep momentum as changing down 5 or 6 gears must be no fun and lets be honest if it helps the flow how hard is it.
Car drivers can easily slow and speed up. We need to be more considerate to each others on the roads as some people have lost loved ones in a horrible way.
I am not a truck driver, but when towing my track car on the trailer, if I need to pull out to overtake you have to plan in advance as some powerfully built director with a can of redbull. will ignore the signals and still try to keep you in land 1.
When I drive if I see a truck closing up on something else, I flash and pull out so they can keep momentum as changing down 5 or 6 gears must be no fun and lets be honest if it helps the flow how hard is it.
Car drivers can easily slow and speed up. We need to be more considerate to each others on the roads as some people have lost loved ones in a horrible way.
TooMany2cvs said:
<scratches head> And there was me, thinking that the aerial photos of the incident showed both trucks being in lane 1, with no roadworks present.
You should know by now not to bring common sense and logic into Daily Mail reader rant threads by now. Edited by DanielSan on Thursday 17th April 19:41
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