Future Classics reaching their bottom value
Discussion
Sealine South said:
Clio Williams?
There are a 3 a Clio Williams then 2 then the third they have gold alloys early to mid 90's in celebration of their F1 success. Only 150bhp but a hoot to drive they are similar to the Pug 1.9 GTI but a step "better" and much rarer limited production runs. 
VX220 has to be surely? I suppose it's only the badge that may affect it.
I've had mine 10 years and in that time they have dipped quite cheap and they already seem to climbing back up. (although this could just be the time of year)
A couple of years ago it seemed like you could get a pretty good NA for about £7.5k to £8k. Now most of the decent ones are £10k plus...
I've had mine 10 years and in that time they have dipped quite cheap and they already seem to climbing back up. (although this could just be the time of year)
A couple of years ago it seemed like you could get a pretty good NA for about £7.5k to £8k. Now most of the decent ones are £10k plus...
Civic TypeR Ep3's (The last good looking one) will be bottoming out pretty soon I think. I'd probably lump the hot Accord(CH1) in there too.
Integra TypeR DC2's are allready on the price rebound.
You can pick up a MK1 Focus ST170 for penuts. The MK1 is still an amazing drive in any form and the rarity of the RS might drag the ST upwards.
As someone mentioned - I think the Saxo VTS is an amazing shout. Nice engine, not a particularly great car - but a propper cult following. (Think MAX POWER buyers who had 1.4 furios and VTR's who couldn't afford the VTS)
Integra TypeR DC2's are allready on the price rebound.
You can pick up a MK1 Focus ST170 for penuts. The MK1 is still an amazing drive in any form and the rarity of the RS might drag the ST upwards.
As someone mentioned - I think the Saxo VTS is an amazing shout. Nice engine, not a particularly great car - but a propper cult following. (Think MAX POWER buyers who had 1.4 furios and VTR's who couldn't afford the VTS)
Welshbeef said:
Zerotonine said:
I am hoping the ST24 does, I have one that I am currently putting back on the road. I think as I have mentioned before the ST200 is the safer bet.
The thing is these models were just top of the range at that timeframe they were not class leading so if you look back what have Cavalier GSI Turbos done value wise... Zero what about the Ultimas great cars but even the "Cosworth" models are banger territory. How about the Renault Spider or the Elise S1 great cars they will not go lower TVR Cerberas smart buys and great cars. But as nice as the Mondys are they are simply run of the mill cars and not the Key RS models. Might be wrong but I cannot see it - if it does its a nice problem to have if not you'd never planned for it to give you a nice bonus.
Dannbodge said:
getawayturtle said:
BMW E36 328s are at their bottom value now. Wouldn't surprise me if they climbed soon.
MK1 MK5s
Impreza Turbos (classic shape)
IMO they are already on their way up. I bought my minter last year and I've seen worse ones sell for over £600 more lately.MK1 MK5s
Impreza Turbos (classic shape)
MGJohn said:
Hardly a mention of some British cars and no mainstream volume production ones? Or, do the hard core of PH car enthusiasts and badge snobs consider home product unworthy ? If they do, they are wrong.
This is a very interesting point!Personally, I feel that as British brands disappear, so do their chances of being coveted in the future. TVR, Lotus & Morgan will always have their ranks of followers but take MG for example?
In 20 years time when today's 20 something's reach their "disposable income" age how many are going to even remember MG? Never mind how many will think back to their early years & think "what I always, always wanted was Rover 216gsi!"
Personally, & from personal experience I'd say you'd have a great chance with;
Subaru Impreza
E36 M3
Porsche 996 carrera
Mitsubishi Evo 4-9
Audi TT mk1
Zerotonine said:
I will grant you that in the case of the ST24/200 they were not class leading, but they were built as an on-road salute to the touring car. The standard mk2 Mondeo, no chance. The ST models, possibly. They can't go any lower!
I'm not sure that there has, nor ever will be, a Mondeo that has the credentials to become an appreciating future classic. If you look at the cars from the 70s and 80s that have, they've generally been ones that have had a close link to some form of motorsport or were iconic cars for youngsters of that era who've then scratched a long-held itch later on in life when they've had the funds to do so. Whilst the Mondeo did race in touring cars, by then it was an era when the road versions were pretty distant from their track relatives and the link is just too tenuous to have any really meaning.
And as for them ever having been a 14 year olds dream car? Well, I'm not sure I need to answer that question.
They're cheap now for a reason and I don't see anything changing in that respect any time soon.
306 Rallye/Gti-6's won't be quite as iconic as 205's, but i'm sure they will still raise in value.
The "hot hatch" was an emerging market when the 205 came, and will always be considered one of the first. Whereas it was already well established when the hot gti-6's came in 97/98.
The "hot hatch" was an emerging market when the 205 came, and will always be considered one of the first. Whereas it was already well established when the hot gti-6's came in 97/98.
Edited by Pebbles167 on Friday 18th April 10:07
Both the Porsche 928 and Jaguar XJS will start moving up I think as the crap drops out of the bottom of the market leaving inly decent ones.
I have a slight interest since I own an XJS but it will have no impact on me since she's a keeper. I imagine daly XK8s will be on the way up soon.
I have a slight interest since I own an XJS but it will have no impact on me since she's a keeper. I imagine daly XK8s will be on the way up soon.
lauda said:
Zerotonine said:
I will grant you that in the case of the ST24/200 they were not class leading, but they were built as an on-road salute to the touring car. The standard mk2 Mondeo, no chance. The ST models, possibly. They can't go any lower!
I'm not sure that there has, nor ever will be, a Mondeo that has the credentials to become an appreciating future classic. If you look at the cars from the 70s and 80s that have, they've generally been ones that have had a close link to some form of motorsport or were iconic cars for youngsters of that era who've then scratched a long-held itch later on in life when they've had the funds to do so. Whilst the Mondeo did race in touring cars, by then it was an era when the road versions were pretty distant from their track relatives and the link is just too tenuous to have any really meaning.
And as for them ever having been a 14 year olds dream car? Well, I'm not sure I need to answer that question.
They're cheap now for a reason and I don't see anything changing in that respect any time soon.
The rate of climb of these future classics is still going to be fairly flat.
Take a best case scenario of an obvious future classic like a Z4M coupe. A good one right now is about £15K. In 10 years time £30K is not unrealistic. That's still not fantastic growth when you consider the ownership costs.
Of course it's a great excuse to hide one away.
Take a best case scenario of an obvious future classic like a Z4M coupe. A good one right now is about £15K. In 10 years time £30K is not unrealistic. That's still not fantastic growth when you consider the ownership costs.
Of course it's a great excuse to hide one away.
Cars seem to be cheapest around 14-16 years old depending on the make and model. Early 2.5 Boxsters seem to be at this point right now as are most late nineties cars except the Porsche 996 and rarer cars. Time will roll on and in a few years their will be lots of early 00 cars at this point for the best value price they will ever be. All will need a bit of work to keep them nice but will probably be 'depreciation free' for a few years then start to go up in value with inflation. The Civic Type-R is a good example as someone said. Next year is probably a good time to buy a mint early one that's original (if you can find one!) for about 1.5K.
lauda said:
I'm not sure that there has, nor ever will be, a Mondeo that has the credentials to become an appreciating future classic. If you look at the cars from the 70s and 80s that have, they've generally been ones that have had a close link to some form of motorsport or were iconic cars for youngsters of that era who've then scratched a long-held itch later on in life when they've had the funds to do so.
Whilst the Mondeo did race in touring cars, by then it was an era when the road versions were pretty distant from their track relatives and the link is just too tenuous to have any really meaning.
And as for them ever having been a 14 year olds dream car? Well, I'm not sure I need to answer that question.
They're cheap now for a reason and I don't see anything changing in that respect any time soon.
You'd probably have said that about the Mark 1 Granada in the 1990s, and you'd have been wrong. Eventually the very few remaining tidy examples of humdrum everyday cars do start going back up in value. They don't become stupidly expensive but they do find a level. Mark 1 and 2 Cortina. Corsair. Opel Ascona and Commodore.Whilst the Mondeo did race in touring cars, by then it was an era when the road versions were pretty distant from their track relatives and the link is just too tenuous to have any really meaning.
And as for them ever having been a 14 year olds dream car? Well, I'm not sure I need to answer that question.
They're cheap now for a reason and I don't see anything changing in that respect any time soon.
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