Police car stolen in Essex

Police car stolen in Essex

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HT281

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118 posts

157 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2608656/Th...

Whoops, but could have happened to anyone in the circs.

mattshiz

461 posts

141 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Surely police cars have trackers?

HT281

Original Poster:

118 posts

157 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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It would have been a plain car personally issued to officers of ACPO rank, not a response car, so unlikely to be fitted with tracking device.

They are fitted with emergency equipment so that if they are called to take command of an emergency out-of-hours, they can cut through the traffic to the station with less delay.

Pebbles167

3,445 posts

152 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Brilliant advice from the police there.

"Dont pull over if he asks you to"

The police tend to usually pull people over first and then ask the questions.

Besides, How is anyone to know its the stolen car?

Are people supposed to completely ignore any police Skoda Superb now then? Doing that will get them a hefty fine. Cant imagine the line "I thought it was the stolen car!" Would hold much weight.

Edited by Pebbles167 on Sunday 20th April 16:20

dacouch

1,172 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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HT281 said:
It would have been a plain car personally issued to officers of ACPO rank, not a response car, so unlikely to be fitted with tracking device.

They are fitted with emergency equipment so that if they are called to take command of an emergency out-of-hours, they can cut through the traffic to the station with less delay.
An alternative view is they're fitted with sirens and lights so the officer can receive a nice car and not pay company car tax due to a loop hole.

It's certainly one theft that you know the police will actually go out of their way to investigate

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Pebbles167 said:
Brilliant advice from the police there.

"Dont pull over if he asks you to"

The police tend to usually pull people over first and then ask the questions.

Besides, How is anyone to know itself the stolen car?

Are people supposed to completely ignore any police Skoda Superb now then? Doing yhat will get them a hefty fine. Cant imagine the line "I thought it was the stolen car!" Would hold much weight.

Edited by Pebbles167 on Sunday 20th April 16:17
You're quite entitled to drive to the nearest police station if you feel it's not a real plod.
In practice I'm not sure who that would work though.

I'm amazed the DM didn't quote the price of the house
£25k is probably the RRP of the car actual value is more like £18k!

Edited by GTIR on Sunday 20th April 16:22

HT281

Original Poster:

118 posts

157 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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GTIR said:
I'm amazed the DM didn't quote the price of the house
Glad i'm not the only one that has noticed how obsessed the DM are with quoting the house value, even when it's got no relevance.

eltax91

9,875 posts

206 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Wonder if it's fitted with radios and all that other guff. Could be embarrassing if a perp can listen in to the police goings on.

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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eltax91 said:
Wonder if it's fitted with radios and all that other guff. Could be embarrassing if a perp can listen in to the police goings on.
Modern police radios can be added or blocked to the current digital system iirc.

Garett

1,626 posts

192 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Brilliant reporting as per usual full of concise and accurate data, helpfully they failed to even mention the colour of the vehicle in question.

eldar

21,747 posts

196 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Garett said:
Brilliant reporting as per usual full of concise and accurate data, helpfully they failed to even mention the colour of the vehicle in question.
Its a police car! White and light blue with a little blue light on top. Mail readers know these things...


carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Superb!

NelsonR32

1,685 posts

171 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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carinaman said:
Superb!
Yes, an Estate one wink

Can't believe someone would go to the trouble unless they wanted to use it for some particular "job". It's not like it's an M3 or an R8 etc.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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eltax91 said:
Wonder if it's fitted with radios and all that other guff. Could be embarrassing if a perp can listen in to the police goings on.
"blocked" the moment the vehicle went missing and probably 'Bricked' fairly soon after ... now only fit for use as a paperweight or doorstop

Ian_H

650 posts

244 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Garett said:
Brilliant reporting as per usual full of concise and accurate data, helpfully they failed to even mention the colour of the vehicle in question.
Daily Mail said:
A Metropolitan Police officer parked the unmarked blue Skoda Superb estate outside his home in Brentwood, Essex, on Thursday, but that night a thief broke in to the house and snatched the car keys.
wink

MrBig

2,694 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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dacouch said:
An alternative view is they're fitted with sirens and lights so the officer can receive a nice car and not pay company car tax due to a loop hole.

It's certainly one theft that you know the police will actually go out of their way to investigate
Funny, my first thought was if he was declaring private use of his company vehicle. wink

MagneticMeerkat

1,763 posts

205 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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HT281 said:
It would have been a plain car personally issued to officers of ACPO rank, not a response car, so unlikely to be fitted with tracking device.

They are fitted with emergency equipment so that if they are called to take command of an emergency out-of-hours, they can cut through the traffic to the station with less delay.
I love it when people who don't know what they're talking about try to sound authoritative.

It will be equipped with an Airwave radio, which is linked to both the GSM mobile telephone network and a GPS system.

The tracking by phone signal is a bit primitive, in that it relies on mast triangulation. Like it gives a rough idea of the car's location within an imaginary triangle created by three mobile phone masts. Not so good when looking for a missing person, but it should be fairly straight forward to find a car using that method.

GPS is FAR more sophisticated, the Airwave set feeds live data to the police control systems. This is laid over a computerised map - and will tell the control room where the car is, how fast it is going and so on. It would take a couple of seconds to track it down that way.

The system can't be turned off either, the Airwave set can be 'switched off' - but it doesn't actually fully deactivate. It's wired into the car's circuitry so always receives power. Part of this is down to the fact that police forces like to know where their cars are. Police officers (may) not be doing the patrols they claim to carry out. Or they (may) be in the vicinity of some undesirable incident, such as a domestic assault, and claim to be elsewhere in the hope another unit volunteers. As such seniors have complete records of where all the police cars are, when, and what they're up to.

I don't know what happens if you rip the airwave set out....

dacouch

1,172 posts

129 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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MrBig said:
Funny, my first thought was if he was declaring private use of his company vehicle. wink
There was a report in one of the papers recently, HMRC were going to investigate senior officers as there was a suspicion they were having lights and sirens fitted to what were in effect just their company cars. This was due to a loophole meaning they did not have to pay any company car tax saving them thousands each year.

HMRC suspected that a large amount of them have never used the sirens and would never use the sirens and they were purposely being added to the cars to avoid company car tax.

Garett

1,626 posts

192 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Ian_H said:
Garett said:
Brilliant reporting as per usual full of concise and accurate data, helpfully they failed to even mention the colour of the vehicle in question.
Daily Mail said:
A Metropolitan Police officer parked the unmarked blue Skoda Superb estate outside his home in Brentwood, Essex, on Thursday, but that night a thief broke in to the house and snatched the car keys.
wink
Oh. whistle

carinaman

21,292 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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I think we know how this ends. A felon is found with a bullet in the head and a USB stick of police informants up their back passage.