Don't Get Done, Get Dom (car related)

Don't Get Done, Get Dom (car related)

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Pebbles167

3,417 posts

151 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Fast Bug said:
Were they forced to buy it then confused
That's what the couple would have you think, the fools!

They probably told Vauxhall they are not the least bit interested in power or speed. They test drove a 1.4, said it was fine, to which Vx, (attempting to be helpful) told them they could save money if they bought a 1 litre, which is true of course. The couple, being stupid buggers, just nodded and breathed heavily through their mouths without knowing what the hell the salesman was on about, all they heard was "..SAVE..MONEY.." and then they switched off.

Now its all Vx's fault. bks, learn to like your stty little Corsa, or sell it and take the hit. Your fault completely.

ttS!




Otispunkmeyer

12,553 posts

154 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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How do people this thick even have 10 grand to part with in the first place?

Snowboy

8,028 posts

150 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Otispunkmeyer said:
How do people this thick even have 10 grand to part with in the first place?
They probably don't.
But they can afford a few hundred a month.

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

134 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Snowboy said:
They probably don't.
But they can afford a few hundred a month.
Not even that. A boggo-basic Corsa can probably be had for circa £150 a month

NPI

1,310 posts

123 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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ModernAndy said:
Not even that. A boggo-basic Corsa can probably be had for circa £150 a month
With a free upgrade to a 1.2SXi. Perhaps they're not so thick? smile

J4CKO

41,276 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Jurgen said:
Some cars are just slow, but would never call it dangerously underpowered (pretty cringeworthy!). What would you call an early Fiat 500 or Harris' 2CV? Lethally underpowered? biggrin
Having had a Fiat 500 or two, I can say that not being able to match the speed of other traffic is a bit scary, when you have some angry tosser in a massive, honking four wheel drive getting irate it can be a bit alarming.

All conflict on the road comes from differences in speed and/or direction so a car should be able to keep up with normally driven other traffic and the Crosa would fit with that, the 2CV and 500, probably not but for occasional short journies they are fine, but for longer ones not dangerous per se, more frustrating.

My grandad, in the late fifties used to drive my dad, his two brothers, my grandma and the dog down from Manchester to Milton Abbott in Devon, getting on for 300 miles in those days without motorways, they did this in in a Ford popular which had 30 bhp, five people, plus luggage for two weeks. Apparently they used to have to get out on some hills and let my grandad drive it up in first gear.

So, the Corsa isnt dangerously underpowered, its just underpowered and requires more effort and planning, you will miss gaps, get frustrated, get bored and generally hate it but it isnt dangerous, just crap.

Negative Creep

24,942 posts

226 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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J4CKO said:
Jurgen said:
Some cars are just slow, but would never call it dangerously underpowered (pretty cringeworthy!). What would you call an early Fiat 500 or Harris' 2CV? Lethally underpowered? biggrin
Having had a Fiat 500 or two, I can say that not being able to match the speed of other traffic is a bit scary, when you have some angry tosser in a massive, honking four wheel drive getting irate it can be a bit alarming.

All conflict on the road comes from differences in speed and/or direction so a car should be able to keep up with normally driven other traffic and the Crosa would fit with that, the 2CV and 500, probably not but for occasional short journies they are fine, but for longer ones not dangerous per se, more frustrating.

My grandad, in the late fifties used to drive my dad, his two brothers, my grandma and the dog down from Manchester to Milton Abbott in Devon, getting on for 300 miles in those days without motorways, they did this in in a Ford popular which had 30 bhp, five people, plus luggage for two weeks. Apparently they used to have to get out on some hills and let my grandad drive it up in first gear.

So, the Corsa isnt dangerously underpowered, its just underpowered and requires more effort and planning, you will miss gaps, get frustrated, get bored and generally hate it but it isnt dangerous, just crap.
Fair enough with classics - my trip around the M25 in a Datsun 120Y was certainly an experience - but people who claim the base models of anything built in the last 20 years are "dangerously underpowered" simply isn't driving them properly

J4CKO

41,276 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Negative Creep said:
J4CKO said:
Jurgen said:
Some cars are just slow, but would never call it dangerously underpowered (pretty cringeworthy!). What would you call an early Fiat 500 or Harris' 2CV? Lethally underpowered? biggrin
Having had a Fiat 500 or two, I can say that not being able to match the speed of other traffic is a bit scary, when you have some angry tosser in a massive, honking four wheel drive getting irate it can be a bit alarming.

All conflict on the road comes from differences in speed and/or direction so a car should be able to keep up with normally driven other traffic and the Crosa would fit with that, the 2CV and 500, probably not but for occasional short journies they are fine, but for longer ones not dangerous per se, more frustrating.

My grandad, in the late fifties used to drive my dad, his two brothers, my grandma and the dog down from Manchester to Milton Abbott in Devon, getting on for 300 miles in those days without motorways, they did this in in a Ford popular which had 30 bhp, five people, plus luggage for two weeks. Apparently they used to have to get out on some hills and let my grandad drive it up in first gear.

So, the Corsa isnt dangerously underpowered, its just underpowered and requires more effort and planning, you will miss gaps, get frustrated, get bored and generally hate it but it isnt dangerous, just crap.
Fair enough with classics - my trip around the M25 in a Datsun 120Y was certainly an experience - but people who claim the base models of anything built in the last 20 years are "dangerously underpowered" simply isn't driving them properly
Agreed, it is just down to a lack of anticipation, being a tighwad and utter frustration as everything else flies past whilst your feeble engine tries to deal with the hand its been dealt after leaving the budget lawnmower it used to live in.


Lucas Ayde

3,541 posts

167 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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NPI said:
I agree with that. And people know they're thick, so they go to "the experts" - the manufacturer's franchised dealership.

Part of the value add of buying a car from a franchised dealership, rather than over the internet, is that the salesman would obviously use his skill and expertise to make sure that the car is suitable and acceptable.

In this case they didn't, hence leaving BSM with nowhere to go.
Seems highly unlikely a dealer would steer a customer towards a cheaper model, which is what the low-powered model they bought was.

They just picked the wrong model for their needs (poss'bly coz it woz cheaper, innit) and refused to accept that they made a mistake when it turned out that it was cheaper for a reason. Surely it must have been someone else's responsibility, why should they be expected to accept the consequences of their decisions?

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

134 months

Thursday 24th April 2014
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Lucas Ayde said:
Surely it must have been someone else's responsibility, why should they be expected to accept the consequences of their decisions?
The thing is, she didnt think it was underpowered, she thought there was a fault with it. By the time it was properly proven it was faultless, Vauxhall gave Dom the new car to give to her as a surprise.

Anyway, not many businesses trickier than dealing with cars, I know that first hand. The whole situation wasn't necessarily anybody's fault.

pigeonskirt

506 posts

138 months

Saturday 3rd January 2015
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NPI said:
Lucas Ayde said:
Let's face it, a great number (if not a majority) of the general public are frankly as thick as pig excrement.
I agree with that. And people know they're thick, so they go to "the experts" - the manufacturer's franchised dealership.

Part of the value add of buying a car from a franchised dealership, rather than over the internet, is that the salesman would obviously use his skill and expertise to make sure that the car is suitable and acceptable.

In this case they didn't, hence leaving BSM with nowhere to go.
I'm a car salesman so I encounter this often. An example is the growing trend of people wanting to jump on the diesel bandwagon. I guess the allure of a car capable (or not) of doing 75mpg is hard to resist! I'll then ask them their annual mileage. Usually it's something really low like 4000 miles a year!! When I then say they'd perhaps be better off buying the cheaper petrol model, the reactions can be quite mixed. Sometimes they listen but mostly they just seem cynical. I've even had people act hostile towards me, despite me being nothing but polite and professional.

As one of my old, Scottish colleagues used to say....

"You can lead a horse to water, but you canny make it drink".


P.S epic thread revival!