RE: BMW 435i M Sport farewell: PH Fleet

RE: BMW 435i M Sport farewell: PH Fleet

Tuesday 22nd April 2014

BMW 435i M Sport farewell: PH Fleet

The BMW 435i leaves the PH fleet - did anyone even notice it go?



"Hello? It's reception, we've got someone here from BMW to pick the 4 Series..." Normally when the man in high vis comes to pick up your long-termer it's an emotional moment. You've kid yourself that you actually owned the thing, you like to think you've bonded and then - whoosh - the keys are whipped from your hand and you're left with a carrier bag full of sweet wrappers, 47p in loose change and hopefully fond memories.

German car night at Ace an early outing
German car night at Ace an early outing
Was I sorry to see the 4 Series go? Yes and no. Unfortunately for the BMW its bombastic replacement is all the 435i wasn't, which is to say heart on sleeve exciting, outdated, endearingly unhinged and possessed of a sodding great V8 engine.

Something of a contrast then. When I got the 4 Series it really was the newest latest and for the first couple of months had that genuine head-turning cachet of being the first of its type many folk had seen. Even six months on it still had a freshness about it an aging, run-out AMG C-Class can't hope to match, most clearly shown up by the BMW's much slicker infotainment system. The Merc isn't exactly backward in this regard but if there's one thing I've learned over months with the 4 Series and M135i we had before it's how slick and intuitive BMW's iDrive has become.

But hang on, this is PistonHeads. Gadgets and switchgear shouldn't be coming before driving impressions! Sadly though that was the reality for the 4 Series. By the time 8,000 miles was showing on its odometer it felt a lot looser and keener to engage than it had done at the start of the loan period but the turbocharged six never felt as zingy or smooth as older BMW engines of its type. It pulled hard enough but sounded gruff just as it should have been starting to sing, rarely encouraging exploration of its top end and all too ready to settle back down to a cruise. Not a car you'd get up early for or take the scenic route home in, numb steering, a lack of body control (under damped in comfort, uninspiring in Sport) and a notchy manual shift all conspiring to extract much of the 'joy' BMW has sold us on of late. 30ish commuting mpg (admittedly mostly with the roof bars in place) wasn't anything to write home about in this day and age either, especially given that up to date turbo engine.

On paper the PH choice; perhaps not so though
On paper the PH choice; perhaps not so though
I do need to have a go with an auto at some point though, the suspicion being that this works much better as a complete package. If there are any owners out there willing to support this theory get involved in the discussion thread below - certainly all the 435is in the PH classifieds are autos whereas a small but significant number of equivalent E92 335i buyers stuck with manual shifters by the same (admittedly unscientific) measure.

Looking at those used prices a car not unlike 'ours' but with just 100 miles on the clock (and an auto) is up for just shy of £44K at Stratstone BMW in Harrogate, which is a healthy saving over the £48K with options OTR of our manual long-termer. There's another with just 10 miles showing for less than £40K at Sytner Oldbury too, 435is usefully cheaper at this nearly-new marker than equivalent Audi S5s. Sure, you can get one for a similar price but it'll have several thousand miles on the clock. If turning heads is your goal something like this striking Nogaro Blue S5 is going to do a much better job than the slick but rather anonymous BMW and that's an interesting role reversal over years gone by. Should I throw in the equivalent Mercedes coupe at this price/age/miles bracket? Oh look, it just happens to be a C63... What a coincidence.

Never quite engaged here the way it should
Never quite engaged here the way it should
I have to confess, when the 435i arrived I honestly thought I'd bagged myself a junior M4 nine months before the real thing but the reality turned out to be a little more reserved than I hoped. It certainly looked the part - the better once I took the roof bars off in readiness for its return to BMW - and other than that slightly beaky nose remains by far the best looking car in its class. And as a place to be it remained top notch - it was a lovely place to spend time and I think BMW really is at the top of the class for interiors at the moment.

It's an interesting warm-up for the M4, which I'll be driving very soon too. On paper the step-up is much more significant than I'd anticipated, even if the fundamentals of a blown six, rear drive and optional manual transmission are carried through. One suspects the M will be a whole new thing though; meanwhile I end my six months with the 435i respectful if not blown away, my exposure to the brand as a whole perhaps a more lingering memory than the car itself.


FACT SHEET
Car:
 2013 BMW 435i M Sport
Run by: Dan
On fleet since: October 2013
Mileage: 8,119
List price new: £48,160 (Basic list of £41,435 OTR plus £670 for 19-inch M double-spoke 442M wheels, £360 for Adaptive Headlights, £515 for Adaptive M Suspension, £350 for enhanced Bluetooth, £300 for folding mirrors, £825 for head-up display, £460 for Interior Comfort Package comprising memory electric seats, 'extended storage' and sun protection glass, £95 for internet, £675 for Harmon/Kardon speakers, £570 for M Sport brakes, £1,000 for BMW Professional Media Package, £325 for online entertainment, £330 for reversing camera and £250 for Variable Sport Steering.)
Last month at a glance: With a few miles on the clock the 4 Series is starting to show some real character at last - phew!


Previous reports:
The 435i joins the PH Fleet
4 Series whets our appetite for the M version
Ultimate driving machine or disappointingly aloof? Time to find out
Rack or ruin for the 435i
Connecting with Connected Drive in the 435i
435i loosens up and gets into the groove





   


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Discussion

Clivey

Original Poster:

5,110 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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And this is what happens when you chase "the market". redface

okie592

2,711 posts

167 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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M135i

Phateuk

751 posts

137 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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article said:
30ish commuting mpg (admittedly mostly with the roof bars in place) wasn't anything to write home about in this day and age either
Is it just me that thinks that's quite impressive given the performance available? boxedin

LasseV

1,754 posts

133 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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So, totally MEH. Well, it wasn't that surprising...

mcbook

1,384 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Phateuk said:
article said:
30ish commuting mpg (admittedly mostly with the roof bars in place) wasn't anything to write home about in this day and age either
Is it just me that thinks that's quite impressive given the performance available? boxedin
I was thinking the same thing - suppose it depends on the commute but for a mixed journey I think it's fairly decent.

A mate has a 330d and is only getting around 37mpg on a mixed commute with limited town driving.

em177

3,131 posts

164 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Right, looking at the idrive pic on the article. Come on PH, own up who listens to radio 4 hehe

Silverbullet767

10,701 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Looks the part but doesn't excite, I'll stick to my 335i.

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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em177 said:
Right, looking at the idrive pic on the article. Come on PH, own up who listens to radio 4 hehe
Dan and I do, religiously. Not sure about Nathan and Matt mind you...

Pommygranite

14,249 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Phateuk said:
article said:
30ish commuting mpg (admittedly mostly with the roof bars in place) wasn't anything to write home about in this day and age either
Is it just me that thinks that's quite impressive given the performance available? boxedin
Summarises everything that is wrong with motoring nowadays - (not PH)?spend £48k on a non top of the range 3 series but feel underwhelmed with getting say 32mpg (but I am sure a whopping 6 mpg extra would make you happy.

Enviromaths - stupid.



kambites

67,553 posts

221 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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I think it's a little unfair to complain at the 4-series for being more of a cruiser than the older 3-series derivatives. It's no longer the "small agile" car in the BMW range so it's inevitable that it would become more... staid. If the same complaints were being levelled at the 2-series, I'd be much more worried.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Seems we've reached the point where any car which isn't either a giant SUV or an AMG with 6oo bhp will inevitably get slagged off.

Would I be happy to have that £50k 4-series on my drive? You bet!

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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anonymous said:
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Hiya,

It's BMW's car off the press fleet so ... their problem! Given that the grey auto linked to in the piece with 10 miles on it was up for £39K and this is a manual with nearly 10K on it I guess it's a case of 'do the math' as our American friends say. There are a couple in the classifieds with four-figure mileages in the mid-40s though.

And Radio4? But of course!

Cheers,

Dan

kambites

67,553 posts

221 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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anonymous said:
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I'm imagine that's a bit unlikely, given that 99% of them probably wont be owned by their first registered keeper. All the market cares about these days is leasing costs.

4wdrift

20 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Having owned an early '13 manual M135i for 6 months, I agree with a lot of the comments in the article. Never bonded with it and sold it before losing a stupid amount of money on it. I wish I'd bought the auto - as a daily driver, it would make a lot of sense and the auto works better with that engine (to me).

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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kambites said:
I think it's a little unfair to complain at the 4-series for being more of a cruiser than the older 3-series derivatives. It's no longer the "small agile" car in the BMW range so it's inevitable that it would become more... staid. If the same complaints were being levelled at the 2-series, I'd be much more worried.
Modern cars are just too competent, that's what the population at large want - no surprises, just efficient & functional.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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anonymous said:
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It's a fair point but I think you'll find most long term test cars in the motoring media are manufacturer owned, unless clearly stated otherwise like Mr Harris and his Ferraris/2CV.

I realise retail prices for equivalent cars are only part of the story but PH is a smart audience and knows the game better than most so hopefully provides a springboard for that part of the discussion.

Cheers,

Dan

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Seems we've reached the point where any car which isn't either a giant SUV or an AMG with 6oo bhp will inevitably get slagged off.

Would I be happy to have that £50k 4-series on my drive? You bet!
Anyone happy to pay £50k for a 3 series BMW needs their head testing.

Wills2

22,798 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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You can pick up a new 435i manual m-sport for 36k from broadspeed add in a few extras and 38-40k would be price you'd end up paying.

Edited by Wills2 on Tuesday 22 April 15:09

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
Anyone happy to pay £50k for a 3 series BMW needs their head testing.
That should go down well with all the aspirant M4 owners!

Meanwhile there's Brits queuing to blow £40,000 on a diesel 4-pot Evoque.

cerb4.5lee

30,521 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Seems we've reached the point where any car which isn't either a giant SUV or an AMG with 6oo bhp will inevitably get slagged off.

Would I be happy to have that £50k 4-series on my drive? You bet!
Anyone happy to pay £50k for a 3 series BMW needs their head testing.
Couldn't agree more I feel sorry for the poor buggers that paid that for the E92 M3 when that launched...its a rare case of you don't get what you pay for!