RE: MG Montego Turbo: Time For Tea?

RE: MG Montego Turbo: Time For Tea?

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3059hp

91 posts

214 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Had a BRG one as a company car in 1988/89 ish. F158 AFV if I remember correctly? Very quick in a straight line for its day - indicated 144mph on a slight downhill (abroad of course). Couldn't keep its coolant in though. After any sort of "making progress" the engine bay would be covered in coolant. The dealer changed everything including replacement head and eventually cylinder block, but still never managed to find where it was coming from. Other than that 100% reliable and a surprsingly comfortable and useable family car. Handling wasn't too bad although it's the only car I ever spun on a public road, but I was younger and stupider then. Came across a Peugeot 405 M16 once and had a lively 20 miles, where the Montego would pull away on the straights but get murdered on the bumpy twisty bits. All possible in the 80s with no speed cams and lots of empty Cumbrian backroads.

ukmike2000

476 posts

168 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Had a couple of Maestros back in the day - a 1.6 and later a 1.3. The latter excelled on one holiday where it towed a very heavy caravan (loaded with an antique cast iron fire surround - don't ask!) to Wales and back without a murmur.
Spacious, airy and comfortable cars that were faithful, if not memorable family cars.

Factoid: The voice of the dashboard on the early cars was provided by the actress Nicolette McKenzie.

billzeebub

3,864 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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My Dad considered one of these back in 89. He ended up buying the 2.0 VandenPlas, mainly because of the leather and wood. Definitely the wrong choice. I remember thinking the MG Turbo looked incredible in white, so much better than the dark red metallic Pensioner bus he ended up buying

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

125 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I really enjoy these threads about older uk cars.

6 pages and nobody has given a nod to Ian "Return of the Saint" Ogilvy (remember his white XJS and the catchy theme tune?)

some people clearly remember 30 odd years ago when these cars were new and know all about how highly respected they were at the time (dont laugh yoof). its easy to look back from where we are today but these cars were the business back in the day and would slaughter most stuff off the lights.
the XR3i brigade, Golf GTi's and Mantas etc didnt have a hope in hell in the 0-60 dash or even in the mid ranges but its quite funny though that these days 126mph top speed is truly nothing to write home about.....

the pale blue on the car in the showroom was probably the worse colour you you could go for but the red car driven by Steve does look great. blacks and whites also suited these saloons.

i also remember the Montego 1.6 advert with the stunt driver throwing it around into a tight parking space to an applauding audience of work colleagues then closing the door on his tie and then getting pulled back as he tried to walk off..... LOL.

Sunroof "slide AND tilt".....fun memories eh?

Pickled

2,051 posts

143 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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ToothbrushMan said:
I really enjoy these threads about older uk cars.

6 pages and nobody has given a nod to Ian "Return of the Saint" Ogilvy (remember his white XJS and the catchy theme tune?)
Pickled said:
Ogilvy didn't he smoke around in XJ-S in Return of the saint? Surely that was more comfortable than the Monty.
Cleary not hehe

humpbackmaniac

1,894 posts

241 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I had the little brother back in 1991, Mg Metro, snapped the throttle cable on the way to Great Yarmouth Pleasure Beach with a couple of ladies in the car (the dizzy heights of yoof!) so jammed the throttle at 70% ish using an empty packet of TikTaks and drove the 40 odd miles home using the ignition switch as the "throttle".

Bloody nearly worked as well until I came to a roundabout and when decelerating by flicking the ignition off, the steering lock came on!! Oh how we laughed from that field. Happy days.

GilesGuthrie

169 posts

147 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Closest I got to one of these was my parents cross-testing it against a VW Passat.

They bought the Passat. Something like this:

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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andymadmak said:
J4CKO said:
The only problem I had with mine was I blew the diff apart, the pin in the middle wore, causing loads of shunt, I hammered out of a junction and it went bang, no drive and I coasted the rest of the way home, leaving a trail of cogs and gearbox oil, so god knows what the Turbo did to the gearbox, ironically a VW unit.

Found another and myself and a mate fitted it, well, mainly him, in the snow, at night, he wasn't very well after that, sorry Dave !
The VW box was only used on the smaller engined stuff. The 2 litre and turbo both used the Honda derived PG1 gearbox which was much tougher and had a nice clean shift feel.
Cheers Andy, could have sworn the replacement box had VW on the casing, was possibly me remembering ringing round for one and being told it was a VW box.

Anyway, typical Honda, Japanese crap, a weak link in the otherwise solid reliability of a British paragon of reliability and solidity biggrin

John.Taylor

55 posts

180 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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My first car at 17 was a Montego 1.3 (1275cc A series) D720GWU - a big car with small engine meant no boy racing for me until I swapped it two years later for a Mk1 XR2!

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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CHIEF said:
No offence Matt B (Honest) but i suspect that you were either very young or not even born when these were introduced.

Of course this vid is cringworthy and the Montego takes some stick but 0-60 in 7.3 and I think if memory serves me correctly the Maestro Turbo cracked 0-60 in just under seven seconds, This is less than half a second off a MK7 Golf Gti and bear in mind this was nearly 30 years ago.

Back in the late 80's maybe very early 90's a work collegue had a Maestro Turbo, Now at the time people were still smoking about in Cortina's and Capri's the performance of this was on another level. I couldn't believe how quick it was when I was taken for a spin.

When people were getting excited about their XR3i's and their Golf Gti's here came along the Montego and Maestro with power but more importantly torque to match.

Of course nowhere near to good to drive as the Mk2 Golf Gti or the Pug 205 Gti but for straightline performance they were bloody quick and still are for a 30 year old car.
Just looking at the old Montego Turbo road test and it puts it into context that, below 100mph, it is as fast as a new GT86. Being only just over 1100kg helps.

They also managed a timed 130.6 mph on the speed bowl, so probably a true 133/134 on a long enough straight ( and probably near 140 on the clock as it was reading 104 at a true 100 )

V8 Disco

474 posts

207 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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A workmate of mine had one of these new, complete with talkling dash... told me at the time he'd bought it so his wife would have someone on the same intellectual level as herself to talk to! biggrin

ETA: just remembered... worst torque-steer I have ever experienced!

conkerman

3,301 posts

135 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Caddyshack said:
I had a actual sex with a lady in one...I liked it!
Custard?

ecs0set

2,471 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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That film is brilliant!

“The image Austin-Rover has so carefully developed after the last few years”. Um, yeah.

“Straight up this hill, no problem at all”. So the fact that you can expect an Austin-Rover to make it up a hill is something to be celebrated?

The end part translates to “Please don’t bend the car as you rag the crap out of it while delivering it to the customer”.

Also, doesn’t London look good without the modern street clutter?

glendon

118 posts

206 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I really enjoyed that, simpler times eh...

Pickled

2,051 posts

143 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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ecs0set said:
Also, doesn’t London look good without the modern street clutter?
Lack of traffic was the most noticeable thing, unless it was filmed early on a Sunday

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

191 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I really enjoyed watching that.

Back in the day that piece of film must have cost Austin Rover a small fortune to make.


Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I do like the gift set. Rolex watch for him, Channel handbag for her ... and a wash cloth.

Imagine haggling "Ok, I'll take it if you throw in another wash cloth".

Maestro handled better than the Astra GTE of it's day.



PHMatt

608 posts

148 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I dont get it?
150bhp from a 2.0 Turbo was surely bad then, embarrassing now?

I get their flimsy nature meant they were fairly light but it's 4.6m long, the same as my E46, that's not a little car so must still be in excess of 1k kg's?

I wouldn't put this in the same league as a Cosworth or Cavalier GSi / Turbo 4x4


CHIEF

2,270 posts

282 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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PHMatt said:
I dont get it?
150bhp from a 2.0 Turbo was surely bad then, embarrassing now?

I get their flimsy nature meant they were fairly light but it's 4.6m long, the same as my E46, that's not a little car so must still be in excess of 1k kg's?

I wouldn't put this in the same league as a Cosworth or Cavalier GSi / Turbo 4x4
The Cav was introduced in 89 F reg I beieve. Not sure if the Turbo was introduced at that time i think it was 92 onwards. The MGT was back in 84 so 8 years later.

It weighed less than 1100kg and whilst its power to weight wasn't great it's torque to weight ration was pretty good and yes of course you couldn't compare to a Cossie which was looked at as a supercar back then.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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CHIEF said:
PHMatt said:
I dont get it?
150bhp from a 2.0 Turbo was surely bad then, embarrassing now?

I get their flimsy nature meant they were fairly light but it's 4.6m long, the same as my E46, that's not a little car so must still be in excess of 1k kg's?

I wouldn't put this in the same league as a Cosworth or Cavalier GSi / Turbo 4x4
The Cav was introduced in 89 F reg I beieve. Not sure if the Turbo was introduced at that time i think it was 92 onwards. The MGT was back in 84 so 8 years later.

It weighed less than 1100kg and whilst its power to weight wasn't great it's torque to weight ration was pretty good and yes of course you couldn't compare to a Cossie which was looked at as a supercar back then.
Don't think it was exactly embarrassing performance-wise PH Matt. As said it only weighed 1112kg in the road test. It matches a modern day sports coupe with nearly 200bhp ( GT86 ) in straight line performance below 100mph....even with the disadvantage of front wheel drive traction off the line.

Sierra Cosworth, Cavalier Gsi and Turbo weren't around when these were launched