A Driving Licence Cull - Post your suggestions
Discussion
Dr Jekyll said:
fulham911club said:
Why? It isn't a minimum speed but a maximum speed. On a motorway 40mph is rather foolish but along a country lane I don't see the problem. Maybe they weren't in a hurry / were enjoying the view / some other reason. Doesn't mean they have to drive at 60 the whole way. Just be patient and over-take when safe to do so.
This really winds me up. 'I'm not going fast, so no danger can possibly arise or if it does it won't be my fault, so I can admire the scenery instead of watching the road'.
k everyone else. fking annoys me on the commute home. You can see the silver-haired old codgers pootling along on their way back from the garden centre, sod the fact that there's people behind them that want to get home and eat, see the kids before bedtime, get to the post office before it shuts etc. Piss or get off the pot. They do NOT have the right to unneccesarily delay me. Pesty said:
bks 
Not when you do it 200 meters away meaning the gap is that big that the lights change back again because they think there is no traffic.
Funnily enough I've never gone through a red light and I don't slow down to 20mph in a 50 when they are on the horizon
I bet you're one of those who stops at roundabouts arnt you.
Green doesn't automatically mean it is safe to proceed. If you know the area you may well know how the phasing works and whether or not you are likely to get through the lights a given distance away. You might as well roll up to them as they go amber as have to do an emergency stop when you roar up to them and they change before you got there. ks Not when you do it 200 meters away meaning the gap is that big that the lights change back again because they think there is no traffic.
Funnily enough I've never gone through a red light and I don't slow down to 20mph in a 50 when they are on the horizon
I bet you're one of those who stops at roundabouts arnt you.
OpulentBob said:
Dr Jekyll said:
fulham911club said:
Why? It isn't a minimum speed but a maximum speed. On a motorway 40mph is rather foolish but along a country lane I don't see the problem. Maybe they weren't in a hurry / were enjoying the view / some other reason. Doesn't mean they have to drive at 60 the whole way. Just be patient and over-take when safe to do so.
This really winds me up. 'I'm not going fast, so no danger can possibly arise or if it does it won't be my fault, so I can admire the scenery instead of watching the road'.k everyone else. fking annoys me on the commute home. You can see the silver-haired old codgers pootling along on their way back from the garden centre, sod the fact that there's people behind them that want to get home and eat, see the kids before bedtime, get to the post office before it shuts etc. Piss or get off the pot. They do NOT have the right to unneccesarily delay me. fulham911club said:
Dr Jekyll said:
fulham911club said:
Why? It isn't a minimum speed but a maximum speed. On a motorway 40mph is rather foolish but along a country lane I don't see the problem. Maybe they weren't in a hurry / were enjoying the view / some other reason. Doesn't mean they have to drive at 60 the whole way. Just be patient and over-take when safe to do so.
This really winds me up. 'I'm not going fast, so no danger can possibly arise or if it does it won't be my fault, so I can admire the scenery instead of watching the road'.Sadly, not my experience of many folks bimbling along these days.
fulham911club said:
OpulentBob said:
Dr Jekyll said:
fulham911club said:
Why? It isn't a minimum speed but a maximum speed. On a motorway 40mph is rather foolish but along a country lane I don't see the problem. Maybe they weren't in a hurry / were enjoying the view / some other reason. Doesn't mean they have to drive at 60 the whole way. Just be patient and over-take when safe to do so.
This really winds me up. 'I'm not going fast, so no danger can possibly arise or if it does it won't be my fault, so I can admire the scenery instead of watching the road'.k everyone else. fking annoys me on the commute home. You can see the silver-haired old codgers pootling along on their way back from the garden centre, sod the fact that there's people behind them that want to get home and eat, see the kids before bedtime, get to the post office before it shuts etc. Piss or get off the pot. They do NOT have the right to unneccesarily delay me. PHuzzy said:
Censorious said:
Tier 3.
Using the left lane to queue jump when turning right.
The opposite of this for left too!
Does this include being clever and using the right hand land to go all the way around a roundabout and then exit on to the lane that the left hand lane is for?Using the left lane to queue jump when turning right.
The opposite of this for left too!
I think people who do that should be rewarded for using their initiative.
Some use motorway slip roads on/off to jump queuing traffic on the motorway sometimes. Naughty but saves some time and it's legal.
OpulentBob said:
Yep, that and "I have no concept of what or who is behind me", basically I don't need to be anywhere so fk everyone else. fking annoys me on the commute home. You can see the silver-haired old codgers pootling along on their way back from the garden centre, sod the fact that there's people behind them that want to get home and eat, see the kids before bedtime, get to the post office before it shuts etc. Piss or get off the pot. They do NOT have the right to unneccesarily delay me.
If those silver hared old codgers had known in the 1940's how people like you were going to view them they would have told Adolf to come and help himself.k everyone else. fking annoys me on the commute home. You can see the silver-haired old codgers pootling along on their way back from the garden centre, sod the fact that there's people behind them that want to get home and eat, see the kids before bedtime, get to the post office before it shuts etc. Piss or get off the pot. They do NOT have the right to unneccesarily delay me. OpulentBob said:
I'm perfectly calm, apologies if a little bad language offends you or infers an emotional state. How far would you take your view? Is 30mph in a NSL acceptable to you, would you follow and not get in any way irritated? How about 20mph? I did say "UNNECCESARILY delay me". Do you not get irritated when stuck behind a dawdler/truck/tractor/JCB who clearly has no intention of pulling in to a layby and letting people pass etc? As far as I'm concerned, if I've been working all day, and I want to get home to see my daughter before she goes to bed, then AFAIAC I am the most important person on the road, and I'm going to get pissed off with people who block my swiftest passage home for no good reason.
But, people do get old and even if their reactions and bodily movements don't slow too much, they may still feel safer going a little slower.We all get old; they needn't hang up their driving gloves and forego their independence so that the rest of us can rush everywhere. Why should they, will you want to when your twilight years are upon you?
I have a 2 and 3 year old btw
But I'd prefer to be home a little late for bath-time than to not get home at all.
Censorious said:
But, people do get old and even if their reactions and bodily movements don't slow too much, they may still feel safer going a little slower.
We all get old; they needn't hang up their driving gloves and forego their independence so that the rest of us can rush everywhere. Why should they, will you want to when your twilight years are upon you?
I have a 2 and 3 year old btw
But I'd prefer to be home a little late for bath-time than to not get home at all.
There is a wide range of options between rushing and going unnecessarily slowly.We all get old; they needn't hang up their driving gloves and forego their independence so that the rest of us can rush everywhere. Why should they, will you want to when your twilight years are upon you?
I have a 2 and 3 year old btw
But I'd prefer to be home a little late for bath-time than to not get home at all.
Monkeylegend said:
OpulentBob said:
Yep, that and "I have no concept of what or who is behind me", basically I don't need to be anywhere so fk everyone else. fking annoys me on the commute home. You can see the silver-haired old codgers pootling along on their way back from the garden centre, sod the fact that there's people behind them that want to get home and eat, see the kids before bedtime, get to the post office before it shuts etc. Piss or get off the pot. They do NOT have the right to unneccesarily delay me.
If those silver hared old codgers had known in the 1940's how people like you were going to view them they would have told Adolf to come and help himself.k everyone else. fking annoys me on the commute home. You can see the silver-haired old codgers pootling along on their way back from the garden centre, sod the fact that there's people behind them that want to get home and eat, see the kids before bedtime, get to the post office before it shuts etc. Piss or get off the pot. They do NOT have the right to unneccesarily delay me. Censorious said:
OpulentBob said:
I'm perfectly calm, apologies if a little bad language offends you or infers an emotional state. How far would you take your view? Is 30mph in a NSL acceptable to you, would you follow and not get in any way irritated? How about 20mph? I did say "UNNECCESARILY delay me". Do you not get irritated when stuck behind a dawdler/truck/tractor/JCB who clearly has no intention of pulling in to a layby and letting people pass etc? As far as I'm concerned, if I've been working all day, and I want to get home to see my daughter before she goes to bed, then AFAIAC I am the most important person on the road, and I'm going to get pissed off with people who block my swiftest passage home for no good reason.
But, people do get old and even if their reactions and bodily movements don't slow too much, they may still feel safer going a little slower.We all get old; they needn't hang up their driving gloves and forego their independence so that the rest of us can rush everywhere. Why should they, will you want to when your twilight years are upon you?
I have a 2 and 3 year old btw
But I'd prefer to be home a little late for bath-time than to not get home at all.
Be considerate of other road users. It's in the Highway Code. If you cause a queue, pull over and let it past. The fact it's rarely followed (how many times have you been stuck behind, for example, a truck doing 40mph for 20 miles at a time on SC A-roads?!) doesn't make it a bad rule, just proves how ignorant some road users are.
OpulentBob said:
That's fine, I recognise that they are slowing down, reaction-wise, and that they're not going to be adrenaline junkies, but an acknowledgement by occasionally pulling in to a layby to let the queue of faster traffic past would be good. It's the insistence to keep on driving at 35mph at all times that annoys me, and suggests they have no concept of what is going on outside their little box filled with travel sweets and Classic FM.
Be considerate of other road users. It's in the Highway Code. If you cause a queue, pull over and let it past. The fact it's rarely followed (how many times have you been stuck behind, for example, a truck doing 40mph for 20 miles at a time on SC A-roads?!) doesn't make it a bad rule, just proves how ignorant some road users are.
1. Like you are with your impatient need to get to where I'm going attitude?Be considerate of other road users. It's in the Highway Code. If you cause a queue, pull over and let it past. The fact it's rarely followed (how many times have you been stuck behind, for example, a truck doing 40mph for 20 miles at a time on SC A-roads?!) doesn't make it a bad rule, just proves how ignorant some road users are.
2. Lorries are restricted on single lane NSL roads to 40 or 50 depending on weight : ignorance by whom?
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
fulham911club said:
OpulentBob said:
That's fine, I recognise that they are slowing down, reaction-wise, and that they're not going to be adrenaline junkies, but an acknowledgement by occasionally pulling in to a layby to let the queue of faster traffic past would be good. It's the insistence to keep on driving at 35mph at all times that annoys me, and suggests they have no concept of what is going on outside their little box filled with travel sweets and Classic FM.
Be considerate of other road users. It's in the Highway Code. If you cause a queue, pull over and let it past. The fact it's rarely followed (how many times have you been stuck behind, for example, a truck doing 40mph for 20 miles at a time on SC A-roads?!) doesn't make it a bad rule, just proves how ignorant some road users are.
1. Like you are with your impatient need to get to where I'm going attitude?Be considerate of other road users. It's in the Highway Code. If you cause a queue, pull over and let it past. The fact it's rarely followed (how many times have you been stuck behind, for example, a truck doing 40mph for 20 miles at a time on SC A-roads?!) doesn't make it a bad rule, just proves how ignorant some road users are.
2. Lorries are restricted on single lane NSL roads to 40 or 50 depending on weight : ignorance by whom?
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
Teir 2 for truckers who use the whole length of an overtaking lane zone to pass another truck.
BTW, I'm not a trucker-hater, but I am an inconsiderate-trucker-hater.
wst said:
PHuzzy said:
Defcon 5 - Death. We can call it justice for attempted murder.
Defcon 5 would be peace and love!Personally I think there should be Robocop-like individuals with anti-materiel rifles stationed on motorway bridges. Break the law a mile away, your engine is demolished by a supersonic lump of depleted Uranium after another half-mile.
stevesingo said:
Fire99 said:
Compulsory re-test for all drivers every 10 years. Make it cheap but strict. That'll cull licenses nicely.
OK the roads will no doubt be mostly empty and our economy will hit the skids but will solve all your driving issues.
Cue, a massive jump in unlicenced and uninsured drivers.OK the roads will no doubt be mostly empty and our economy will hit the skids but will solve all your driving issues.
Retest every driver every 10 years, if a learner finally passes after 20 attempts, they have to pass twice to prove it wasn't a fluke.
Tier 1 - £100 fine: Multiple (lets say 3 within a year)incidents of Lack of indication, stopping and pausing at a roundabout when nothing is coming, driving round in ignorance of their full beam headlamps.
Tier 2: 3 points + fine: causing an Accident, driving at 40 mph everywhere, forcing the nose of your car out into traffic thus causing others to brake hard to avoid you.
Tier 3:+ gets your car Auctioned (it was the drivers fault, not the car) + fine.
so things like uninsured driving where the fine should simply be double the premiums you would have paid if insured since last insured.
Tailgating or any other needlessly aggressive driving gets the driver put under house arrest; if they stray more than 40 yards from a fixed point, the driver is sent to the crusher, also staying in the outside lane till the last moment then then cutting across several lanes to (just) make the exit ramp.
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