RE: Morgan launches Plus 8 Speedster

RE: Morgan launches Plus 8 Speedster

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lufbramatt

5,318 posts

133 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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dlockhart said:
370 bhp from a BMW4.8 V8?? why don't they use the V8 from the M5 surely that would have +130 bhp?? and I am surprised by the limited top speed , my 226 bhp Porsche has a TV of 155mph , why is this so much slower for the horses? I do like the 4.2 seconds for 0-62 though I just cant figure out the rest?
Because (un)aero.

Pistachio

1,116 posts

189 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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do you have to pay extra for wheelnuts or are they made of glass??

GranCab

2,902 posts

145 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Pistachio said:
do you have to pay extra for wheelnuts or are they made of glass??
No need - just photoshop some on ...

_Neal_

2,658 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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dlockhart said:
370 bhp from a BMW4.8 V8?? why don't they use the V8 from the M5 surely that would have +130 bhp??
Do you mean the turbo V8? If so, there's no way that'd fit, and it'd cause major cooling problems even if it did. 370bhp is more than plenty anyway. And who cares about "Vmax" in a car with no windscreen?

If you mean the 5.0 V8 from the E39 M5, it's not made any more, and given how tight a fit the 4.4/4.8 is in there (with its single intake set-up) I don't think the 5.0 V8 would fit. Also it'd be much more costly and would only make c.30bhp more.



Edited by _Neal_ on Wednesday 23 April 15:42

jamespink

1,218 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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fatbutt said:
Look great. How about a 4 cylinder version, even cheaper?
Why on earth would you want a wheezy 4 pot? No fun in that...grumpy

6cyl

122 posts

120 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I actually want one of these. This is just brilliant, if a bit expensive. But you do get a V8... biggrin

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

151 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:

Although for your £70,000 you don't seem to get much more than a big BMW engine bolted into an old bedstead.
Not at all, old chap.


Whilst the traditional (+4 and roadster) have a basic ladder chassis with leaf springs on the back, The +8 is based on the aero chassis, of bonded alluminium construction with modern suspension (of all things!) all round. See below

(admittedly the body support is still Ash, but it is non-structural for the purposes of handling etc, its just what the panels sit on)




Edited by Vocal Minority on Wednesday 23 April 15:39


Edited by Vocal Minority on Monday 12th May 16:16

B17NNS

18,506 posts

246 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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STOP BUILDING CARS WITHOUT WINDSCREENS!!!

rovermorris999

5,195 posts

188 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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What a wonderful car. Thank God someone is mad enough to make such a thing and people are mad enough to buy them.

carinaman

21,221 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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GranCab said:
Pistachio said:
do you have to pay extra for wheelnuts or are they made of glass??
No need - just photoshop some on ...
They're on the options list. You can specify Titanium ones as available on the Ferrari 458.

I went to a Motor Show in the mid-90s. At the time Morgan had a car with chromed alloy wheels. They looked great to my eyes. I'm now wondering if it was Charles Morgan that gave me a brochure.

ChemicalChaos

10,360 posts

159 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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jamespink said:
Why on earth would you want a wheezy 4 pot? No fun in that...grumpy
Take a ride in a Plus 4 supersport, like I did, then come back and see if you still want to make that statement. 2.0 4 cyl, 5 seconds to 60, and a ridiculously fruity exhaust note too.

dlockhart

434 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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carinaman said:
I think your German TV may do quite a bit more than 155 miles per hour, but I understand there's some kind of electronic limiter that retards further progress.
nope Porsche don't fit that and the more powerful engine Porsches have a higher top speed. I assume that's the point where the power of the engine is matched by wind resistance & the 155 number is just a coincidence

yeti

10,523 posts

274 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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LotusOmega375D said:
Are they allowed to get away with non-head restraint seats these days? I went right off the Plus 8 when they introduced head-restraints (in the mid 1990s I think).
Head restraints are great when touring as they reduce the wind at the back of your head! They are removable and when I'm around town or out for a blat, I take mine off and have two plugs to fill the holes.

British Beef

2,191 posts

164 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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My Fury has an aero windscreen, I drove 1800 miles in 4 days to Le Mans and back, great fun. No goggles or helmet, just a hat and some glasses. A little windy and you get wet if it rains. You hear, feel and smell everything!

This (like all Morgans) is an event to look at and even more to drive, I think it looks so much better with an aero screen.

Love it!!!


Jawaman

271 posts

132 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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carinaman said:
I'm not sure about those exhaust portals. Do they double up as jacking points? Is one an exhaust and the other a jacking point?

Such an outlet positioned there looks a bit uncouth to me.
That was the first thing I noticed. IMO there should be two "pea shooters", one for each bank of cylinders and exiting at the centre rear of the car.

Side exits just don't suit the car

sad61t

1,100 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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LasseV said:
I love it! I simply love it!

ohh. Damn, i live in wrong country!
V8 and RWD would be perfect for ice racing.
Studded tires would suit those steelies to a T.
Add electrically heated gloves and you're sorted!

SFO

5,162 posts

182 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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you can order a standard windscreen and roof for the Speedster

sad61t

1,100 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Jawaman said:
That was the first thing I noticed. IMO there should be two "pea shooters", one for each bank of cylinders and exiting at the centre rear of the car.

Side exits just don't suit the car
Looking at the normal (if that's not an oxymorgan) Plus8 then rear exhausts are standard (though quad pipes) with side exits an, uncouth, option.

sad61t

1,100 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Mr_B said:
There is a manual option, or that's on the wish list ?
Not just on PH's benzene tinted glasses as a manual is standard on the Plus 8, so don't any reason for not offering it on the Speedster.
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jfcole

16 posts

129 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Does it have a passenger door or not? First pic shows it does, next two show a slab side to it. Kinda cool looking.