RE: The four-cylinder Porsche is back!

RE: The four-cylinder Porsche is back!

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DiscoColin

3,328 posts

215 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I get the impression that the 2l model is being offered for the benefit of other markets (perhaps with different {possibly punitive} tax regimes based on capacity rather than CO2) and that Porsche GB just don't want to promote it. After all - why would they when they have a waiting list out to up to 18 months (depending on model) of the more expensive variants. I wouldn't expect to see much traction behind marketing these until the market starts to saturate in a couple of years - I suspect that it really might be that simple.

As for offering a smaller diesel, where is the incentive for them to do that - at least until they can keep up with orders of what they already offer ?

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

151 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I wonder if in years to come we'll all be saying 'Oh, not a V6. That's the one with the Golf engine'
Porsche will do well with the Macan.. Just don't take it to Portugal.

MJK 24

5,648 posts

237 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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kambites said:
PHMatt said:
Surely the only reason this exists is for Porsches overall emissions targets?
If it's not much cheaper and far less really available it means they don't care if people don't buy it as long as there seen to be selling it.
Isn't the limit set by manufacturer, rather than by brand? That being the case, Porsche are such a tiny part of VAG that I doubt anyone gives a damn about their average emissions.

I'm fairly confident they're making it because it'll sell. I wonder if it's aimed at the fleet market somewhere or other.

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 23 April 17:37
It'll be relevant in Italy. They tax cars over 2,000cc very heavily. Hence Ferrari developing the 208 Turbo and Lotus developing the 2.0 Turbo GT3.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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MJK 24 said:
It'll be relevant in Italy. They tax cars over 2,000cc very heavily. Hence Ferrari developing the 208 Turbo and Lotus developing the 2.0 Turbo GT3.
I once read that Volvo released an 850R in Italy with a 2.0 instead of 2.3 litre engine, guessing this is why? Interesting.

blasos

347 posts

163 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Pistonheads said:
At the other end, there's a great slug of torque: 258lb ft
It might be a great slug for a 1250 kg hot hatch, but it's not as great in a car that's over 500 kg more massive. Adequate would be a more apt adjective.

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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simonrockman said:
The 914 1.7l engine would have been a better example, I think. Pretty much as VW turned it out, which wasn't ever the case with 356 or 912 engines. Maybe I am viewing the 912 through rose tinted spectacles?

I have a 237bhp turbocharged I4 Porsche, but I suspect that mine is more fun (but less reliable).

otolith

56,175 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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PHMatt said:
Surely the only reason this exists is for Porsches overall emissions targets?
If it's not much cheaper and far less really available it means they don't care if people don't buy it as long as there seen to be selling it.
gazsouthgate said:
Is this a clever Co2 emissions tactic? Techincally it is offered for sale, but actually near-impossible to buy
The EU CO2 limits for manufacturers relate to the cars they actually sell, not that they offer in their range. There is no advantage in that sense to having a car which nobody buys.

kambites

67,582 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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MJK 24 said:
It'll be relevant in Italy. They tax cars over 2,000cc very heavily. Hence Ferrari developing the 208 Turbo and Lotus developing the 2.0 Turbo GT3.
Ah yes, I'd forgotten Italy's strange tax barrier at two litres. That still exists then?

chrispj

264 posts

144 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Blayney said:
A few years ago I read in a magazine (probably Autocar) that had a rumour of Porsche thinking of making a car underneath the boxster with a 4cyl engine, possibly resurrecting the 550 spyder name. Whatever happened to that?
Sports cars don't sell well enough (even sharing the platform between Porsche, Audi and Volkswagen) so they knocked it on the head to concentrate on SUVs... frown

rs mexico

473 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Re-map and a few tweeks 400hp

zeduffman

4,056 posts

152 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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That EA888 is getting everywhere.

elementad

625 posts

151 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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  • how exciting!**
Quickly, everyone, call your friends and let them know phone

daveco

4,130 posts

208 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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A great engine in the GTI and with that premium badge it will be a winner.

vrooom

3,763 posts

268 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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1700kg and it does 0-60 in 6.9 sec?

deltashad

6,731 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I don't see the problem, Porsche have been making 4 cylinder variants on and off for decades.

I saw one in a shopping centre at the weekend and it looked really good. I'm not an suv fan but was seriously impressed both inside and out.

HDM

340 posts

192 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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zeduffman said:
That EA888 is getting everywhere.
Any ideas/thoughts on how they have increased the power in this Porsche version? Based on the many recent iterations it does seem to be a good candidate for many different levels of tune, all the way to 400 bhp so far!

chelme

1,353 posts

171 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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fathomfive said:
Have I missed the foamy-mouthed rhetoric usually reserved for such announcements?

These sensible posts are quite disconcerting.
No, because this is no longer Pistonheads, its Porscheheads, haven't you noticed??

Dale487

1,334 posts

124 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I really like the shape of the Macan - loads better looking that the Cayenne, even though it's not massively different. Compact & muscular.

This engine sounds like it'll sell a decent amount, I guess they'd sell even more if it was a similarly powerful l4 diesel. Shame it's at least £20k too expensive for me - every car you'd ever need & tick the Porsche off the bucket list.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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What would happen, right, if like, Porsche made a car and it didn't, y' know, look a bit like a 911?

otolith

56,175 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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chelme said:
fathomfive said:
Have I missed the foamy-mouthed rhetoric usually reserved for such announcements?

These sensible posts are quite disconcerting.
No, because this is no longer Pistonheads, its Porscheheads, haven't you noticed??
Currently scoring 2.96 out of ten on the P.H. O'Meter.