Autotrader now clearly highlighting Cat C/D on ads!

Autotrader now clearly highlighting Cat C/D on ads!

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Swoxy

2,801 posts

211 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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corozin said:
Firstly, sellers have a legal requirement to disclose Cat C/D.

Secondly are there really people out there who don't independently check the history of a car before buying it? Are people still that lazy/daft?
Where is this legal requirement?

Catatafish

1,361 posts

146 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Great, if they could put an end to those stating the mileage as 110 when it is 110000, they'll be on their way to being useful.

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Catatafish said:
Great, if they could put an end to those stating the mileage as 110 when it is 110000, they'll be on their way to being useful.
And those that advertise at £147 or similar daft price then mention late in the advert £1475 or some such nonsense. Autotrader needs to improve its approach dramatically but this is certainly a step in the right direction. I hope they make many more.

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

242 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Just need to be able to apply a filter to these results.

Rollcage

11,327 posts

193 months

Sunday 27th April 2014
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Swoxy said:
corozin said:
Firstly, sellers have a legal requirement to disclose Cat C/D.

Secondly are there really people out there who don't independently check the history of a car before buying it? Are people still that lazy/daft?
Where is this legal requirement?
Trade sellers now have a duty to disclose anything that may materially affect a purchaser's decision. As a trader, they would be expected to know if it's on the register. "I didn't know" isn't a defence any more.

I can't remember the exact details of the law change, but it's easily verifiable.

STW2010

5,735 posts

163 months

Sunday 27th April 2014
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rsv gone! said:
Just need to be able to apply a filter to these results.
That would be good. If you wanted a bargain you could filter Cat C/D only

oobster

7,099 posts

212 months

Sunday 27th April 2014
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I haven't put an advert on Autotrader for over 10 years, but would the Cat marker be registration-dependant? So if the previously-damaged car was showing a private plate at the time of the accident, are Autotrader basing the Cat status on the reg only and possibly not the actual car/VIN?

The Moose

22,860 posts

210 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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So, as I predicted earlier in this thread, this is a total waste of time!

I've been looking around at something to add to the fleet and looked at a rather nice looking car. Reasonably priced. Did not list as CAT-D/C on the Autotrader but in fact if you HPI the thing is coming back as listed on the VCAR.

It doesn't matter to me at all now as the car is sold - some poor fker has probably bought it thinking now Autotrader has this thing highlighting whether it's a CAT D/C they're safe and don't need to HPI the car.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Cheers

crostonian

2,427 posts

173 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Depends how long the ad has been live, if it's a trade ad that was listed before the new CAT C/D markers came in then they may not show. You can always use the 'Report Ad' button and from experience they do remove ads fairly quickly.

The Moose

22,860 posts

210 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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crostonian said:
Depends how long the ad has been live, if it's a trade ad that was listed before the new CAT C/D markers came in then they may not show. You can always use the 'Report Ad' button and from experience they do remove ads fairly quickly.
It wasn't listed back in April - the chap only had the car in stock a week or so.

I've never found Autotrader actually remove an ad that's reported (same for PH)...unless the ad gets recreated as a new ad shortly after being taken down.

RedAlfa

476 posts

185 months

Thursday 10th July 2014
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Catatafish said:
Great, if they could put an end to those stating the mileage as 110 when it is 110000, they'll be on their way to being useful.
I agree. What kind of scumbag dealer would list the mileage as "1" .. when they bloody well know how many miles it has done?! It would be great if Autotrader blocked mileages that were significantly below the average, UNLESS the advertiser can substantiate the mileage (cloud cuckoo land frown)

TroubledSoul

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4,600 posts

195 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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The Moose said:
So, as I predicted earlier in this thread, this is a total waste of time!

I've been looking around at something to add to the fleet and looked at a rather nice looking car. Reasonably priced. Did not list as CAT-D/C on the Autotrader but in fact if you HPI the thing is coming back as listed on the VCAR.

It doesn't matter to me at all now as the car is sold - some poor fker has probably bought it thinking now Autotrader has this thing highlighting whether it's a CAT D/C they're safe and don't need to HPI the car.
More fool them for not doing their own check?

It's a useful tool for filtering those cars out. You should still always check before buying any car, unless you're not bothered. I'm sure unscrupulous dealers are now entering the reg of a similar car to hide the history. If this is found to be the case, these traders should be banned from AT.

ND_007

198 posts

260 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Okay so I've got a different scenario. A car I'm interested in is showing on A/T listing as a CAT C. I have run an independent HPI report via mycarccheck and it comes back all clear. The buyer is unaware of any total loss and does not know why the A/T listing is such.
Does that mean it's okay and A/T have picked up a false marker or should I still be concerned. I should add it is a very limited market, there are only 7 for sale in the UK.
Grateful if there is another way of checking!?



TroubledSoul

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4,600 posts

195 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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ND_007 said:
Okay so I've got a different scenario. A car I'm interested in is showing on A/T listing as a CAT C. I have run an independent HPI report via mycarccheck and it comes back all clear. The buyer is unaware of any total loss and does not know why the A/T listing is such.
Does that mean it's okay and A/T have picked up a false marker or should I still be concerned. I should add it is a very limited market, there are only 7 for sale in the UK.
Grateful if there is another way of checking!?
If I was spending more than a couple of grand and was genuinely worried then I'd get a proper HPI check with the HPI guarantee I think. That would provide me enough peace of mind.

Alternatively, you could query it with AT?

The Moose

22,860 posts

210 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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TroubledSoul said:
The Moose said:
So, as I predicted earlier in this thread, this is a total waste of time!

I've been looking around at something to add to the fleet and looked at a rather nice looking car. Reasonably priced. Did not list as CAT-D/C on the Autotrader but in fact if you HPI the thing is coming back as listed on the VCAR.

It doesn't matter to me at all now as the car is sold - some poor fker has probably bought it thinking now Autotrader has this thing highlighting whether it's a CAT D/C they're safe and don't need to HPI the car.
More fool them for not doing their own check?

It's a useful tool for filtering those cars out. You should still always check before buying any car, unless you're not bothered. I'm sure unscrupulous dealers are now entering the reg of a similar car to hide the history. If this is found to be the case, these traders should be banned from AT.
But of course. You and I (and most people on these fora) are generally car people. We know how the game works and that you should do your own checks. We are unfortunately not representative of the whole car-buying population and that's where the problem lies.

It's also worth noting that trying to get HPI to pay out on their guarantee is, I bet, about as hard as getting blood out of a stone. I've never done it, but I'd imagine that there are so many get-outs it's not worth the paper it's written on... ( Cue everyone telling me HPI have paid them out on this issue smile ).