Engine remap doubes my insurance quotes!!! Any tips?

Engine remap doubes my insurance quotes!!! Any tips?

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Patrick Bateman

12,195 posts

175 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Engine life being affected can mean something like it'll last 200k miles rather than 225k miles.

Zerotonine

1,171 posts

175 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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HaloGen8 said:
No takers then to fess up to their undeclared modifications or is everyone claiming to be Mr Perfect?
I am Mr Perfect, my daily is OEM spec.

Sir Bagalot

6,488 posts

182 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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VladD said:
HaloGen8 said:
V8covin said:
How would your insurer find out if you remapped your car if you didn't tell them ?
They wouldn't so don't tell them
This ^^^
Unless of course you crash said car and kill someone, the insurance company take possession of car and go over it with a fine toothed comb, then refuse to pay out because you didn't declare the mod, and then you have to pay millions in compensation out of your own pocket, which you can't obviously, so you go bankrupt and possibly to prison. Not likely, but worth bearing in mind.
That's not the way insurance works. They would pay out damage to the third party, and then may recover it from you

Sir Bagalot

6,488 posts

182 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Don't tell 'em.

Of course all PH'ers are totally above boardlaugh and will always inform the ins co.....

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Can I link to this thread every time some new car thread gets spammed with people saying I should buy a lesser car and remap it?

Patrick Bateman

12,195 posts

175 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Johnnytheboy said:
Can I link to this thread every time some new car thread gets spammed with people saying I should buy a lesser car and remap it?
It's impossible to win.

An interesting thought though regarding insurance, are you meant to get a new car (new to you) checked for a remap? What would happen in the event of a big claim with respect to an undeclared remap that the owner was unaware of?

ADM06

1,077 posts

173 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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How are they going to know its been mapped?
Btw, awesome car. I have one.
Buy one that's had a cambelt change though.

ADM06

1,077 posts

173 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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How much power are you declaring this remap to produce? Unless its had a lot of other things it will not be higher than 260bhp - an extra 30bhp.
Stupid that you have declare mods like this. You won't get back money you've spent modifying in the event of a claim.

V8forweekends

2,484 posts

125 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Poll on the Audi forum I frequent (A3 8Ps) came out as 57% of those voting do declare mods to insurer - remainder declared none or only some.

Not passing judgement either way - just saying.

sim72

4,945 posts

135 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Mapping my Polo GTI up from 148hp to 194hp cost me only an extra £85 with Adrian Flux (full protected NCB admittedly). I declared it for peace of mind more than anything else; I doubt if any "normal" insurer would check the map history even if they knew how to.

LiamM45

1,035 posts

181 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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I had my own car remapped, best money I've spent on the car. Get it done by a reputable company and enjoy.

So much rubbish spouted about reliability, and guess what, it is rubbish! A reputable mapper will not risk making your car unreliable! It may highlight 'weak' parts of the car but they'll be parts you'd need to change sooner or later anyway.

As for insurance, I'm with Greenlight, and have every modification declared, price is under £500 on a similar car to an R26.

16v_paddy

360 posts

193 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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HaloGen8 said:
But being honest...genuinely how many PHers which are posting on here have EVERY modification declared to their insurance be it alloy swap or air filter or window tint?

It's easy to point the finger but is everyone being truthful with their insurer??

Fess up time!
I do, it's simply not worth the hassle not doing things properly. Declare every single thing as the sneaky fkers will try anything to get out of paying in the event of a claim.

Someone I know got screwed over after he ran out of talent on a motorway one evening. Had a highly modified Volvo 850, mods declared like bigger turbo, intercooler, water injection & methanol, mapped to suit, porsche brakes, LSD etc etc, forgot to declare his orange silicone hoses & his insurers refused to pay him because of them.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Friday 25th April 2014
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Raize said:
Don't modify your car.
Girl...

nottyash

4,670 posts

196 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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What remap? I don't know what you mean ;-)

Edited by nottyash on Saturday 26th April 10:04

HertsBiker

6,313 posts

272 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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What would be really annoying is for your modified car to be hit by uninsured driver, then you try to claim on your own policy and they don't pay out! How would that make you feel? Also they then cancel with no refund, you then pay to fix your car, and then pay to reinsure - except as you have had a cancellation it doubles your premium.. Before declaring the mods. Imagine what happens when you add those in as well. So basically you don't save money by not declaring. Not that I can see how a wheel change can affect what happens when you are parked (unless theft).

nottyash

4,670 posts

196 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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All this rubbish about maps being checked by insurance companies.
There are over 40 standard maps for a Subaru Impreza, so how can they differentiate between them??
Also not declaring the slightest thing is about risk. You are still insured should something be found undeclared but only 3rd party. Some people are happy to take this risk because insurance companies look for excuses to rip them off.

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

199 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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I once had a modified car written off when some one drove into me, some but not all mods declared. When the assessor looked at my car he said it was really nice and I'd obviously done a lot of work on it and he offered more for it than I paid a year before. So basically didn't give a monkeys.

PMed

Original Poster:

13 posts

121 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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Looks like i opened a can of worms here.

I called Greenlight, who said that their premium would come down a lot after a year of owning the car.

Having shopped for quotes with and without a map, i expect the insurers now have it on record that I'd be interested in mapping it, and therefore might check in the event of a claim, so I guess I'll have to be above board.

To those saying don't map it. Have you got any other suggestions for a £7000 car that will do 30mpg and keep up with any other hot hatch out there?

hdrflow

854 posts

139 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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marctwo said:
Pebbles167 said:
Greenlight have been very good to me, especially with mods. smile
^^ THIS ^^

I don't even bother shopping around anymore.
Same here thumbup

5lab

1,659 posts

197 months

Saturday 26th April 2014
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a quick look at a remap suggested it only added 25bhp (so 10%) to the car. That's not really very much, and certainly not enough to transform the car significantly.

if you can get classic insurance, take a look at 944s and the like, cheap enough, and pokey enough (in turbo or s2 form)