Would you? CAT D Maserati

Would you? CAT D Maserati

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Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Remagel2507 said:
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Ramadan Rentals ? What does that mean ?
The question is , is it halal ?

Dave G fsi

988 posts

131 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Dracoro said:
DaveyBoyWonder said:
Not a lot of visual damage to have written off a 100k car.
Could take a while to get parts, hire car won't be a stty little Vauxhall either so costs will mount! I'd also imagine that the loss in value would be more than more day-to-day cars.

The repair looks odd though, the bonnet panel gap (all round) looks massive. Shoddy repair perhaps? Or a more underlying chassis issue such that this is as close as they could make the panel gaps!!
Hadn't noticed that but when comparied to another non-damaged car look at the difference in the panel gap!! eek

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This car:


Shnozz

27,535 posts

272 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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anonymous said:
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I have to disagree about Leeds. It certainly has a fair proportion of st parts, the same as all cities, but I would say it's far lower than 90%. North Leeds has some nice parts (Shadwell, Alwoodley, Adel, Roundhay, Chapel Allerton), and parts of the West of town are pleasant, albeit more intersected with ste. East Leeds isn't pleasant until you go slightly beyond the city line and then it's got some nice places. South Leeds isn't pleasant full stop.

The city centre is nice enough. Anything from the Victoria quarter across to the business district is ok. Yes, there are some less pleasant smaller central districts and/or particular streets, but that occurs in every city I have visited.

I'd certainly say that Leeds was a far more pleasant city in the most part than any city in Hampshire (even Winchester has it's fair share of ste), which is from where I originate. And, for that matter, from any city across the Midlands, where I spent 4 years living.

Edited by Shnozz on Thursday 8th May 15:40

zcacogp

11,239 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Dave G fsi said:
Hadn't noticed that but when comparied to another non-damaged car look at the difference in the panel gap!! eek

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This car:

I presume that those are different models (perhaps different years of manufacture) and that they haven't just failed to put some of the lower trim on the repaired car?


Oli.

Dracoro

8,691 posts

246 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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That a different, albeit similar, bumper design.

What I and the quoted poster are referring to is the panel gap between the bonnet and the bumper - clearly a shoddy job.

conkerman

3,306 posts

136 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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That bonnet fit made me think it was a Citroen for a moment.

I usually go by the guide that a cat D/C repaired car is worth around 30% less than a non mangled one. I'd say this was at least £10k overpriced.

But I would not sully my pointy poo stick with this turd. Brave pills and a full engineers report, ensure the wheels are in the right places required.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

152 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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If a person has £60k budget for a car I'd be surprised if they'd go for this.
There are many other nice options for the money that haven't been bodged together.

Unless the dealer is shady, and follows the stereotypes, and is willing to sell for cash to local drugs dealers without reporting the transaction to hmrc, then I'd be surprised if it sells.

zcacogp

11,239 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Dracoro said:
What I and the quoted poster are referring to is the panel gap between the bonnet and the bumper - clearly a shoddy job.
Yes, 'zactly, it's some way off where it should be judging by the photos. However the bumper lower strake caught my eye as well as being different, and I wondered whether the bodgery had extended down to there as well.

Interestingly (although it's hard to see from the photos), the bumper-wing join looks to be not that bad. Maybe that's easier to line up than the bonnet.


Oli.


10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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anonymous said:
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I would do, but the gates in and out of Calverley are closed at 5pm to stop that lot from Bratfud getting in.

Fastdruid

8,675 posts

153 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Shnozz said:
Credit hire period on something specialist will often be longer due to parts availability. Say, small repair, 40 days.
Indeed, it wouldn't surprise me at all to be far longer. Last Christmas someone pranged my Mondeo while it was parked, simple bumper damage. Common car (although rare version), only 5 years old. Took 3 weeks to get one of the parts in.

I know people who have waited months for parts on Italian bikes, I doubt the cars are much different.

Shnozz

27,535 posts

272 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Fastdruid said:
Shnozz said:
Credit hire period on something specialist will often be longer due to parts availability. Say, small repair, 40 days.
Indeed, it wouldn't surprise me at all to be far longer. Last Christmas someone pranged my Mondeo while it was parked, simple bumper damage. Common car (although rare version), only 5 years old. Took 3 weeks to get one of the parts in.

I know people who have waited months for parts on Italian bikes, I doubt the cars are much different.
Indeed. I was using conservative estimates in many areas. As I say, timescales slip, parts prices and labour costs tend to only head North and insurers would often rather cut their losses. An economic total loss when it's an insurance claim is very different to that when the repair process is extracted from the whole insurance merry go round.

As for Tonker's W Yorks recurrent slur, I won't engage further as he's always right and I don't wish to endure the wrath of his sycophantic following.

CraigJ

601 posts

206 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Shnozz said:


As for Tonker's W Yorks recurrent slur, I won't engage further as he's always right and I don't wish to endure the wrath of his sycophantic following.
Yes seems to have a bit of a grudge against this nice area.

heppers75

3,135 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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I have to say for that sort of money I would much rather have a new Ghibli V6S..

clivemercer

65 posts

160 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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I would also guess that a Cat D car would no longer carry a manufacturers warranty or be viable for an extended warranty, which most buyers of cars of this value would expressly want to have.

Having bought a straight one of these a few months ago, if I had seen this car at the time I would not even have entertained the thought of going to look at it at that price. As stunning as these cars are, the lack of comfort from not having a warranty and the loss of value of Cat D, puts this as over-priced.

NicheMonkey

460 posts

129 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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If they can't fit the bonnet correctly then I shudder to think how they have boshed the suspension back together.... That car will never be the same again. Avoid like the plague even if it was 30k.

rj1986

1,107 posts

169 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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NicheMonkey said:
. Avoid like the plague even if it was 30k.
To put a spin on it- what would people pay for this then, knowing it's a Cat D, body work is a bit shonky, but the redone suspension, electronics and whatever is mechanically sound (but not done by Maserati or a specialist, just a regular bodyshop)

zcacogp

11,239 posts

245 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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rj1986 said:
NicheMonkey said:
. Avoid like the plague even if it was 30k.
To put a spin on it- what would people pay for this then, knowing it's a Cat D, body work is a bit shonky, but the redone suspension, electronics and whatever is mechanically sound (but not done by Maserati or a specialist, just a regular bodyshop)
Good Q. What's the list price of a regular one without history?

I'd start at list minus 50% and work up or down depending upon the apparent quality of the repair (and how many small African countries you could fit in the panel gaps.)


Oli.

andymc

7,366 posts

208 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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anonymous said:
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as if that were true? they'd all be at it