RE: BMW M3 tester's notes: PH Blog
Discussion
andywaterfall said:
Headline to the original piece said:
Harris knows a thing or two about M3s; ahead of his vid here are his personal impressions of the new one
Did I miss CH's video test?Either that or he can't be bothered anymore!
Chris, great write up. Can't wait until I can afford a used one of these in 10 years time!!
Can you still (possibly) make a case for a manual E46 m3 being the most complete performance car of the last 50 years, or does the fact that these newer m3's are so good actually blow that idea into the weeds?
Can you still (possibly) make a case for a manual E46 m3 being the most complete performance car of the last 50 years, or does the fact that these newer m3's are so good actually blow that idea into the weeds?
Limpet said:
An uneducated guess having never driven either, but I suspect a 335d wouldn't see which way an M3 went in any situation outside of a city centre.
A very uneducated guess as outside of a city centre it just takes balls.......A Polo with a nutter behind the wheel could beat any M3 or a Veyron etc etc.
jjr1 said:
Limpet said:
An uneducated guess having never driven either, but I suspect a 335d wouldn't see which way an M3 went in any situation outside of a city centre.
A very uneducated guess as outside of a city centre it just takes balls.......A Polo with a nutter behind the wheel could beat any M3 or a Veyron etc etc.
matsoc said:
"Absolutely. I loved my E92, but it was surprisingly limited as my daily driver. Opportunities to enjoy that motor beyond 7,000 were predictably limited, the lack of torque left you exposed to turbo hot hatches"
I belive Harris is right here but we have to consider that not all the M3 buyers were looking for a daily driver. Some were looking for a car to use mostly in weekends or spirited drive BUT retaining boot and seats for 4 and also 4 doors if you need it. I owned a V8 Vantage, astonishing car but for a number of reasons I managed to use it way less than I would have been able to do with an M3.
In other words I can't consider levaing the V8 good news...
I currently have an E92 M3 with 6MT, and I drove the new car last week.I belive Harris is right here but we have to consider that not all the M3 buyers were looking for a daily driver. Some were looking for a car to use mostly in weekends or spirited drive BUT retaining boot and seats for 4 and also 4 doors if you need it. I owned a V8 Vantage, astonishing car but for a number of reasons I managed to use it way less than I would have been able to do with an M3.
In other words I can't consider levaing the V8 good news...
Believe me, the new engine is good news. The difference in performance is night and day. Also as a whole package, the new car is better in every single way.
AlphaCentauri said:
matsoc said:
"Absolutely. I loved my E92, but it was surprisingly limited as my daily driver. Opportunities to enjoy that motor beyond 7,000 were predictably limited, the lack of torque left you exposed to turbo hot hatches"
I belive Harris is right here but we have to consider that not all the M3 buyers were looking for a daily driver. Some were looking for a car to use mostly in weekends or spirited drive BUT retaining boot and seats for 4 and also 4 doors if you need it. I owned a V8 Vantage, astonishing car but for a number of reasons I managed to use it way less than I would have been able to do with an M3.
In other words I can't consider levaing the V8 good news...
I currently have an E92 M3 with 6MT, and I drove the new car last week.I belive Harris is right here but we have to consider that not all the M3 buyers were looking for a daily driver. Some were looking for a car to use mostly in weekends or spirited drive BUT retaining boot and seats for 4 and also 4 doors if you need it. I owned a V8 Vantage, astonishing car but for a number of reasons I managed to use it way less than I would have been able to do with an M3.
In other words I can't consider levaing the V8 good news...
Believe me, the new engine is good news. The difference in performance is night and day. Also as a whole package, the new car is better in every single way.
cerb4.5lee said:
AlphaCentauri said:
matsoc said:
"Absolutely. I loved my E92, but it was surprisingly limited as my daily driver. Opportunities to enjoy that motor beyond 7,000 were predictably limited, the lack of torque left you exposed to turbo hot hatches"
I belive Harris is right here but we have to consider that not all the M3 buyers were looking for a daily driver. Some were looking for a car to use mostly in weekends or spirited drive BUT retaining boot and seats for 4 and also 4 doors if you need it. I owned a V8 Vantage, astonishing car but for a number of reasons I managed to use it way less than I would have been able to do with an M3.
In other words I can't consider levaing the V8 good news...
I currently have an E92 M3 with 6MT, and I drove the new car last week.I belive Harris is right here but we have to consider that not all the M3 buyers were looking for a daily driver. Some were looking for a car to use mostly in weekends or spirited drive BUT retaining boot and seats for 4 and also 4 doors if you need it. I owned a V8 Vantage, astonishing car but for a number of reasons I managed to use it way less than I would have been able to do with an M3.
In other words I can't consider levaing the V8 good news...
Believe me, the new engine is good news. The difference in performance is night and day. Also as a whole package, the new car is better in every single way.
The F82 M4 is in a completely different league as a daily driver in comparison to the E92 M3 I reckon for sure.
It has been interesting reading back my posts in the thread as well, and my opinion on the E92 M3 still hasn't changed one bit nearly 10 years on. At least I'm consistent.
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