Lorries to be banned from middle lane
Discussion
Let's see them enforce this one!
www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/15095566?source=Evening%20Standard
www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/15095566?source=Evening%20Standard
Crazy.
When driving an unladen lorry nothing is more frustrating than being slowed by a heavily laden lorry going up a hill. Imagine if you had to sit behind it at 40mph for 100 miles. As all the other lorries caught up, the left hand lane would ultimately come to a standstill.
Every morning I pass a slowly driven JCB up the A3 (3 lane section from Guildford to the M25). Even with cars overtaking it there is a tailback. I try to leave extra early so I get there before him.
When driving an unladen lorry nothing is more frustrating than being slowed by a heavily laden lorry going up a hill. Imagine if you had to sit behind it at 40mph for 100 miles. As all the other lorries caught up, the left hand lane would ultimately come to a standstill.
Every morning I pass a slowly driven JCB up the A3 (3 lane section from Guildford to the M25). Even with cars overtaking it there is a tailback. I try to leave extra early so I get there before him.
surely a better idea would be to encourage better lane discipline, remove the pointless speed limiters and make motorway driving compulsory on the driving test.
THAT would create capacity as opposed to their idea which will simply mean no one ever goes in the 'lorry lane' permanently reducing 3 lane motorways to 2 lanes. (when theyre not closed because of crashes caused by the lorry drivers falling asleep....)
THAT would create capacity as opposed to their idea which will simply mean no one ever goes in the 'lorry lane' permanently reducing 3 lane motorways to 2 lanes. (when theyre not closed because of crashes caused by the lorry drivers falling asleep....)
"The Highways Agency said the ban was needed to increase motorway capacity"
I say the most obviuos way to increase motorway capacity is to add more lanes.
If they were that concerned about capacity how about getting rid of the bus lane on the M4 for starters ?
This government really is a bunch of fing feckwits
>> Edited by wik on Friday 3rd December 12:10
>> Edited by wik on Friday 3rd December 12:11
I say the most obviuos way to increase motorway capacity is to add more lanes.
If they were that concerned about capacity how about getting rid of the bus lane on the M4 for starters ?
This government really is a bunch of fing feckwits
>> Edited by wik on Friday 3rd December 12:10
>> Edited by wik on Friday 3rd December 12:11
They should do some sort of variable system like in Germany. Outside rush hour, it's surely better to let lorries overtake each other. A blanket "lorries shall not lane 2" helps nobody (as posted above, I can't see Mrs Miggins forcing her way onto the motorway between a chain of arctics forced to stay in lane 1)
>> Edited by john_p on Friday 3rd December 12:11
>> Edited by john_p on Friday 3rd December 12:11
perhaps we are all missing an unexpected and welcome side effect ? Specifically the trial section in the West Midlands is the M42 northbound J10-J11. This is a 3 mile uphill two lane section.
What pees me off is that they (Gov't) place the whole problem as a result of heavy drivers making poor decisions when to overtake and how to react when being overtaken.
Fair enough that is part of the problem, however the real problem is speed limiters. All to be made worse when limiters come in on LGV >3.5t and vehicles with more than eight seats.
>> Edited by Flat in Fifth on Friday 3rd December 12:20
What pees me off is that they (Gov't) place the whole problem as a result of heavy drivers making poor decisions when to overtake and how to react when being overtaken.
Fair enough that is part of the problem, however the real problem is speed limiters. All to be made worse when limiters come in on LGV >3.5t and vehicles with more than eight seats.
>> Edited by Flat in Fifth on Friday 3rd December 12:20
robyn said:
will make it interesting trying to enter or exit through the chain of lorrys thats built up!
Not only that but if you are on a new stretch of road to you and you are looking for your exit, you'll have a hell of a time trying to see the sign boards (if they aren't gantry based).
Plus the inside lane is the most empty of the lanes, shame to clog that up as well.
Gazboy said:
Get rid of those sodding limiters, and fit an overboost button, gives you an extra 200bhp for 10 seconds. Problem solved.
Do you really want 30 - 50 Tonnes of truck doing 70mph three feet off your rear bumper ?????
I know I don’t.
I don’t think this is the answer, but I cant see restricting HGVs to lane 1 working at all.
As already said how do you get across that lane when they are all backed up nose to tail ???
I think the problem is bigger on 2-lane A-roads than motorways. I was crawling along the A34 for about 5 miles yesterday whilst a whole chain of HGVs inched past an army convoy and other trucks in the old classic "1 mph speed differential" mode. The most frustrating thing is when they edge past going uphill, only to give up on the maneuver when they get to the top and the "slower" truck gains 1mph going down the other side. Perhaps if the drivers used a little more discretion when starting these moves there would be less ill-feeling.
Although I can totally sypathise with the drivers who don't want to be stuck behind a slower vehicle any more than we do.
Although I can totally sypathise with the drivers who don't want to be stuck behind a slower vehicle any more than we do.
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