Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta - looks cool, but any good?
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Silverbullet767 said:
May have just been a manufacturing issue with mine, but this happened to two of mine a few years ago, both had around 3mm left and both failed on the inner edge, Car was an Audi A6 quattro 3.0TDi
Vredestein customer service didn't want to know. I'll never buy them again!
A colleague had this happen to both rear tyres on his cupra R a few weeks apart, used these for years religiously on his e46 m3 but couldn't risk it again.Vredestein customer service didn't want to know. I'll never buy them again!
Silverbullet767 said:
Not an isolated case then, I wish I took down the manufacture date. I bet it was a bad batch.
Doesn't look like it. One was very similar to yours and one exploded completely. Both on the inner side as well .... although he still recommends them to people he just couldn't risk it happening again so put OEM Bridgestones on.I had two sets on my E39 M5. Excellent tyre in dry, wet or snow. Even good on track!
Now have them on the wifes Jag and will use on future cars.
I fail to see any advantage in going for a more expensive brand over these. I always used to go for to range Michelins or Yokohama's but will not bother any more.
Not only excellent value for money but damned good as well.
Now have them on the wifes Jag and will use on future cars.
I fail to see any advantage in going for a more expensive brand over these. I always used to go for to range Michelins or Yokohama's but will not bother any more.
Not only excellent value for money but damned good as well.
HJMS123 said:
Silverbullet767 said:
Not an isolated case then, I wish I took down the manufacture date. I bet it was a bad batch.
Doesn't look like it. One was very similar to yours and one exploded completely. Both on the inner side as well .... although he still recommends them to people he just couldn't risk it happening again so put OEM Bridgestones on.8bit said:
HJMS123 said:
Silverbullet767 said:
Not an isolated case then, I wish I took down the manufacture date. I bet it was a bad batch.
Doesn't look like it. One was very similar to yours and one exploded completely. Both on the inner side as well .... although he still recommends them to people he just couldn't risk it happening again so put OEM Bridgestones on.Have been running these for a couple of thousand miles so thought it worth doing an update.
Overall, very impressed tbh. As expected, a notable deterioration in ride comfort (going from 16s to 17s) and more tendency to tramlining. Also some more road noise especially at motorway speed. However, turn in is much sharper as is overall lateral grip. Tyres feel very very planted in the dry, you can really push on them. Rears quite progressive. Yesterday drove in absolutely torrential rain on the A13, plenty of standing water. Tyres were exceptional. Very very impressed so far. I'll be interested to see how they wear.
Recommended.
Overall, very impressed tbh. As expected, a notable deterioration in ride comfort (going from 16s to 17s) and more tendency to tramlining. Also some more road noise especially at motorway speed. However, turn in is much sharper as is overall lateral grip. Tyres feel very very planted in the dry, you can really push on them. Rears quite progressive. Yesterday drove in absolutely torrential rain on the A13, plenty of standing water. Tyres were exceptional. Very very impressed so far. I'll be interested to see how they wear.
Recommended.
Dodsy said:
Cant get them in my size any more so tried their replacement Vorti's but not impressed , now move on to continental sc2's which are rather good , better the the ultracs
Been working through a set of Vortis for a while now, mostly pretty good but I find they lack out and out grip and don't quite handle 340ftlbs and 300hp through front wheels, tending towards power understeer :\ Might look at the new Michelin PS4s next but the other problem with the Vortis is they seem to last so long....
Dodsy said:
Cant get them in my size any more so tried their replacement Vorti's but not impressed , now move on to continental sc2's which are rather good , better the the ultracs
Interesting, my rear Sessantas will need replaced in a few months' time, I was going to go for the Vortis. Which car are you talking about here?GrumpyTwig said:
Been working through a set of Vortis for a while now, mostly pretty good but I find they lack out and out grip and don't quite handle 340ftlbs and 300hp through front wheels, tending towards power understeer :\
That's a lot of power and torque through the front wheels, particularly if you're steering at the same time. I'd be tending to think you were pushing the limit of the chassis rather than the tyres personally.8bit said:
Dodsy said:
Cant get them in my size any more so tried their replacement Vorti's but not impressed , now move on to continental sc2's which are rather good , better the the ultracs
Interesting, my rear Sessantas will need replaced in a few months' time, I was going to go for the Vortis. Which car are you talking about here?GrumpyTwig said:
Been working through a set of Vortis for a while now, mostly pretty good but I find they lack out and out grip and don't quite handle 340ftlbs and 300hp through front wheels, tending towards power understeer :\
That's a lot of power and torque through the front wheels, particularly if you're steering at the same time. I'd be tending to think you were pushing the limit of the chassis rather than the tyres personally.Nanook said:
GrumpyTwig said:
Been working through a set of Vortis for a while now, mostly pretty good but I find they lack out and out grip and don't quite handle 340ftlbs and 300hp through front wheels, tending towards power understeer :\
Might look at the new Michelin PS4s next but the other problem with the Vortis is they seem to last so long....
My Vortis (245 on the back, 225 on the front) are dealing with my RWD 300bhp just fine.Might look at the new Michelin PS4s next but the other problem with the Vortis is they seem to last so long....
Do you have a helical/viscous/clutch pack differential on there? 300bhp through the front wheels is going to tend to understeer pretty much regardless of what tyre you use I'd think.
Like I say it's a good tyre still, and don't regret having them.
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