RE: Tesla Model S: Review
Discussion
garypotter said:
PS also with electric vehicles the manufacturers should state how long a full recharge takes and and what costs as I have to pay for my electricity.
I don't think you can really expect Tesla to know what your home electricity tariff is... But work on 15p/kwh and you won't be far wrong. So about £13 for a full charge - or 4p/mile for that claimed 312 mile range. At £1.35/litre, that'd be equivalent to 152mpg on diesel.Unless you've got a big fat home charging point, though, you're going to be restricted to ~3kw from a 13A socket - so 85kwh/3kw = 28hr 20min to go from zero to fully charged. But if you let it get to absolute zero, you've got a bigger issue than the charge time.
[quote]Also why not instal solar panels on the roof to charge the batteries even when they are moving - damn should have patented the stoopid idea.
mattshiz said:
Mermaid said:
The BMW i3/i8 don't look normal, but are far more attractive & provide the differentiation.
i3 attractive? Maybe from a running cost point of view, but from any other view its hideous!A Scotsman said:
My son & his family live 620 miles away. I can normally make it there in 12-13hrs including fuel stops and a stop for lunch. In a Tesla I'd have to cut the journey in half and stay somewhere overnight. Do Tesla do hotel vouchers?
Yes because that's a typical journey everyone does every day isn't it?A Scotsman said:
My son & his family live 620 miles away. I can normally make it there in 12-13hrs including fuel stops and a stop for lunch. In a Tesla I'd have to cut the journey in half and stay somewhere overnight. Do Tesla do hotel vouchers?
I believe BMW have a scheme whereby they lend you a suitable BMW for a small fee.A Scotsman said:
My son & his family live 620 miles away. I can normally make it there in 12-13hrs including fuel stops and a stop for lunch. In a Tesla I'd have to cut the journey in half and stay somewhere overnight. Do Tesla do hotel vouchers?
Wouldn't most Tesla owners take one of their other cars for a journey like that?garypotter said:
PS also with electric vehicles the manufacturers should state how long a full recharge takes and and what costs as I have to pay for my electricity.
Maybe they assume everyone has a plug in at work and work pays for it so it is really cheap to run! and very green!! look at the nuclear power stations to see how green electric cars are.
Also why not instal solar panels on the roof to charge the batteries even when they are moving - damn should have patented the stoopid idea.
Older Audis had solar recharging roofs!Maybe they assume everyone has a plug in at work and work pays for it so it is really cheap to run! and very green!! look at the nuclear power stations to see how green electric cars are.
Also why not instal solar panels on the roof to charge the batteries even when they are moving - damn should have patented the stoopid idea.
I'd like the Tesla to look 'Space age' somehow.
Get together with Citroen maybe (and regenerate the famed suspension!)
Or 'do a Renault Avantime'?
I recall Setright saying that steering wheels were counter-intuitive (though we all got the idea!) so maybe a variation here?
O.K. Now....mix a Smart Forfour with electric motor and we have a plastic bodied Town car. (That's NOT a 'Town Car' as known in USA!)
having driven one on UK roads I can confirm that the car is amazing. Its quicker than an M5 and rides and handles exceptionally well mainly due to its low centre of gravity courtesy of the battery packs location on the car floor. Once you master where you prefer the brake regen setting you will find yourself barely touching the brake even in very press on driving scenarios. I drove the car very hard for an hour and it didnt dip under half charge which I thought was extremely impressive - I expected the battery to be drained very quickly with such spirited use. I have to say I was left very impressed by all aspects of the car and the drive - amazing piece of kit.
Pretty car. I see one regularly and it has the same drawing power as an XJ.
I envision an octopus of chargers cutting down the charging time to something realistic, however. The car is nothing more than an expensive work commuter at this point since you can't do any real traveling with it. No thanks.
I envision an octopus of chargers cutting down the charging time to something realistic, however. The car is nothing more than an expensive work commuter at this point since you can't do any real traveling with it. No thanks.
I'm sure I mustn't be the only one to think this but why can't motor manufacturers and petrol stations come up with an interchangeable battery system? You pull into a fuel station swap cells and drive off again. The cells could be charged at the station. There could be a choice of a few different sized cells, small for city car, medium for things like the Tesla and large for other things. If the infrastructure can be put in place to deliver, store and sell highly flammable liquid then why not cells?
Lovely looking car either way.
Lovely looking car either way.
One of these drove past me this morning along London Wall. It did a traffic light grandprix and I failed to check the number plate in time. Was it the PH one here? It might have been Dutch, and it was possibly a bit greener. Anyway, first one I'd seen in the flesh. From most angles as it drove away at 90 degrees to me it looked like a Jag XF until the rear lights were visible. That's no bad thing in my mind though.
crossy67 said:
I'm sure I mustn't be the only one to think this but why can't motor manufacturers and petrol stations come up with an interchangeable battery system? You pull into a fuel station swap cells and drive off again. The cells could be charged at the station. There could be a choice of a few different sized cells, small for city car, medium for things like the Tesla and large for other things. If the infrastructure can be put in place to deliver, store and sell highly flammable liquid then why not cells?
Lovely looking car either way.
Like this you mean? http://youtu.be/H5V0vL3nnHYLovely looking car either way.
crossy67 said:
I'm sure I mustn't be the only one to think this but why can't motor manufacturers and petrol stations come up with an interchangeable battery system?
The problem - as Tesla's many critics being fuelled (sic) by the oil industry cannot help repeating - is that damage to/a fire in batteries is a bad thing (tho nowhere near as bad as driving around with 15 gallons of highly flammable, toxic liquid!!)Tesla armour their batteries against all but the craziest levels of damage - but that, and ensuring they're as low in the chassis as possible for balance, means they aren't that easy to replace (and maintaining supply of replacement battery packs/moving them around as-needed would be a gargantuan task unless all cars used the same units which is unlikely to happen)
The future may lie in other types of battery tho - the Japanese have a new battery with similar power capabilities to Lithium but which recharges 10 times faster and lasts 10 times longer.
I also read something about someone digging-up and older type of battery where you can literally just 'top up' the electrolyte as you would 'top up' your fuel tank - the issues are of transporting the chemicals and making the system safe for use in 2 tonnes of metal being driving by a f
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