Badly modified cars thread Mk2

[Coatesy351]

Levin said:

I have to voice my support for the Rieger Calibra and cars of its ilk. I'd drive that without the Lexus lights, etc. Besides, lots of kits from that era were mental, like the Mattig Astras and Mantas. Apparently the Astras at least are horrible to drive, and I could believe it.

Tell me that this kit includes a rwd conversion.

[gowmonster]

e21Mark said:

irocfan said:

AlexRS2782 said:

...they decided to fit massive 6" or 8" solid spacers and excessively long nuts either side to create the wide track...

if they're the same type of spacers a mate had you'd bolt the spacer the the hub and then the wheel to the spacer

Bernie & Lepu style.

I always wondered what happens when you turn the wheels when not moving when you have spacers like that, must put a lot of stress on the bolts.

[Vitorio]

e21Mark said:

Bernie & Lepu style.

On the plus side, you can now fit a big brake kit without worrying whether the calipers will foul the wheels

[Driver101]

Coatesy351 said:

Levin said:

I have to voice my support for the Rieger Calibra and cars of its ilk. I'd drive that without the Lexus lights, etc. Besides, lots of kits from that era were mental, like the Mattig Astras and Mantas. Apparently the Astras at least are horrible to drive, and I could believe it.

Tell me that this kit includes a rwd conversion.

Afraid not. It was running a standard 2.0xe through the front wheels.

[smithyithy]

Funny thing about the Lupo is, it's claimed it's built to 'go against the grain', but nothing about that car is unique.

It's a VW hatchback, of which there are thousands in that 'scene', it has excessive camber, stretched tyres, pokey rims, it's silly low, it has matte paint, it has a ridiculous wing.

Nothing about that is original, all he's done is turned everything up to 11.

I couldn't care less what cars people build and what they spend their money on, but the delusions of some owners...

[Vitorio]

smithyithy said:

Funny thing about the Lupo is, it's claimed it's built to 'go against the grain', but nothing about that car is unique.

It's a VW hatchback, of which there are thousands in that 'scene', it has excessive camber, stretched tyres, pokey rims, it's silly low, it has matte paint, it has a ridiculous wing.

Nothing about that is original, all he's done is turned everything up to 11.

I couldn't care less what cars people build and what they spend their money on, but the delusions of some owners...

Well, its against the grain of what normal car owners do with their machines, things might be different in the UK, but over here i never see things like that rolling around (presuming the thing could actually still roll around)

[e21Mark]

gowmonster said:

e21Mark said:

irocfan said:

AlexRS2782 said:

...they decided to fit massive 6" or 8" solid spacers and excessively long nuts either side to create the wide track...

if they're the same type of spacers a mate had you'd bolt the spacer the the hub and then the wheel to the spacer

Bernie & Lepu style.

I always wondered what happens when you turn the wheels when not moving when you have spacers like that, must put a lot of stress on the bolts.

I imagine the wheel bearings would be shot in no time.

[Levin]

vtecyo said:

Don't they have something daft like 345 tyres on the back?

Yup, 345s on the rear. Absolutely hilarious given it's an Astra.

[C70R]

smithyithy said:

Funny thing about the Lupo is, it's claimed it's built to 'go against the grain', but nothing about that car is unique.

You're struggling with the definition of the word "unique". There isn't another Lupo (or car, for that matter) identical to it, ergo it's unique.

As a car, it's clearly an abomination and useless. Diesel Lupos are plentiful and uninspiring - no need to mourn the loss of such a bland car.

As an object, it looks like a bit of fun to me. Like some of the Foose et al Yank creations, only with a different kind of base, it has everything "turned up to 11" (to paraphrase another poster).

Yes, it might not be a cohesive piece of 'design'; and no, it may not drive terribly well (if at all). But that's hardly the point. He's taken an entirely undesirable car and turned it into something that generates a bit of conversation and interest.

For those saying about how badly (if at all) it must drive and how dangerous/stupid/impractical/ill-thought-out it is, you are spectacularly missing the point. It's intended, I'm sure, as a bit of fun - it's not going to be driven on the road. It's simply a static exhibit.
If you need to as "why bother?", then it's probably not to your taste (as it isn't to mine) - but to dismiss it is to dismiss the views of those who might find it interesting, which is narrow-minded in extremis.

[Cliftonite]

Gulzar Snr gives his point of view on gold paint.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/14655834.Pier_owner...

[Flibble]

C70R said:

You're struggling with the definition of the word "unique". There isn't another Lupo (or car, for that matter) identical to it, ergo it's unique.

Granted it is unique. But it is entirely with the grain as those sorts of mods are the norm for that scene (just to a lesser extent).

[DoubleD]

C70R said:

smithyithy said:

Funny thing about the Lupo is, it's claimed it's built to 'go against the grain', but nothing about that car is unique.

You're struggling with the definition of the word "unique". There isn't another Lupo (or car, for that matter) identical to it, ergo it's unique.

As a car, it's clearly an abomination and useless. Diesel Lupos are plentiful and uninspiring - no need to mourn the loss of such a bland car.

As an object, it looks like a bit of fun to me. Like some of the Foose et al Yank creations, only with a different kind of base, it has everything "turned up to 11" (to paraphrase another poster).

Yes, it might not be a cohesive piece of 'design'; and no, it may not drive terribly well (if at all). But that's hardly the point. He's taken an entirely undesirable car and turned it into something that generates a bit of conversation and interest.

For those saying about how badly (if at all) it must drive and how dangerous/stupid/impractical/ill-thought-out it is, you are spectacularly missing the point. It's intended, I'm sure, as a bit of fun - it's not going to be driven on the road. It's simply a static exhibit.
If you need to as "why bother?", then it's probably not to your taste (as it isn't to mine) - but to dismiss it is to dismiss the views of those who might find it interesting, which is narrow-minded in extremis.

Still looks sh!te

[C70R]

Flibble said:

C70R said:

You're struggling with the definition of the word "unique". There isn't another Lupo (or car, for that matter) identical to it, ergo it's unique.

Granted it is unique. But it is entirely with the grain as those sorts of mods are the norm for that scene (just to a lesser extent).

Being honest, given how long we've been modifying cars, I can't see how it's possible for someone to find something that is completely new/unique. Everything in car modifying is iterative to some extent, which is why people push certain concepts/trends to the limit - be that the 80s widebody, the Yank "Donk", the rusty Dub, or this Onikyan.
Complaining about how terrible/dangerous it would be to drive is like moaning that The Queen can't squat 300kg - it's simply not its purpose.

Before anyone bemoans the loss of the donor car, it was a diesel Lupo. They are both plentiful and uninspiring in equal measure. Use your energies for something more worthwhile.

[C70R]

DoubleD said:

C70R said:

smithyithy said:

Funny thing about the Lupo is, it's claimed it's built to 'go against the grain', but nothing about that car is unique.

You're struggling with the definition of the word "unique". There isn't another Lupo (or car, for that matter) identical to it, ergo it's unique.

As a car, it's clearly an abomination and useless. Diesel Lupos are plentiful and uninspiring - no need to mourn the loss of such a bland car.

As an object, it looks like a bit of fun to me. Like some of the Foose et al Yank creations, only with a different kind of base, it has everything "turned up to 11" (to paraphrase another poster).

Yes, it might not be a cohesive piece of 'design'; and no, it may not drive terribly well (if at all). But that's hardly the point. He's taken an entirely undesirable car and turned it into something that generates a bit of conversation and interest.

For those saying about how badly (if at all) it must drive and how dangerous/stupid/impractical/ill-thought-out it is, you are spectacularly missing the point. It's intended, I'm sure, as a bit of fun - it's not going to be driven on the road. It's simply a static exhibit.
If you need to as "why bother?", then it's probably not to your taste (as it isn't to mine) - but to dismiss it is to dismiss the views of those who might find it interesting, which is narrow-minded in extremis.

Still looks sh!te

I couldn't agree more (see the bolded bit above).

My point was aimed more at the "why bother?" and "what's the point?" crowd that tend to swarm/hivemind around these kinds of cars.

[AlexRS2782]

Cliftonite said:

Gulzar Snr gives his point of view on gold paint.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/14655834.Pier_owner...

The only thing missing from that article is a picture of one of his various creations parked like a c u next Tuesday in a restricted area locally

[Stickyfinger]

AlexRS2782 said:

Cliftonite said:

Gulzar Snr gives his point of view on gold paint.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/14655834.Pier_owner...

The only thing missing from that article is a picture of one of his various creations parked like a c u next Tuesday in a restricted area locally

Blasphemy.....

[Deisel Weisel]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-Vw-Caddy-1-9-TDI-PD...

I think the rusty look has it's place with the retro/rat brigade, but looks plain silly on a 2006 Caddy.

[AlexRS2782]

Get rid of the stupid "scene patina" paintwork and I suppose it's back to normal. Mind you at least it's a patina paint that's been applied rather than some of the absolute dildos that actually do rust their panels out properly for the same look.

[smithyithy]

C70R said:

DoubleD said:

C70R said:

smithyithy said:

Funny thing about the Lupo is, it's claimed it's built to 'go against the grain', but nothing about that car is unique.

You're struggling with the definition of the word "unique". There isn't another Lupo (or car, for that matter) identical to it, ergo it's unique.

As a car, it's clearly an abomination and useless. Diesel Lupos are plentiful and uninspiring - no need to mourn the loss of such a bland car.

As an object, it looks like a bit of fun to me. Like some of the Foose et al Yank creations, only with a different kind of base, it has everything "turned up to 11" (to paraphrase another poster).

Yes, it might not be a cohesive piece of 'design'; and no, it may not drive terribly well (if at all). But that's hardly the point. He's taken an entirely undesirable car and turned it into something that generates a bit of conversation and interest.

For those saying about how badly (if at all) it must drive and how dangerous/stupid/impractical/ill-thought-out it is, you are spectacularly missing the point. It's intended, I'm sure, as a bit of fun - it's not going to be driven on the road. It's simply a static exhibit.
If you need to as "why bother?", then it's probably not to your taste (as it isn't to mine) - but to dismiss it is to dismiss the views of those who might find it interesting, which is narrow-minded in extremis.

Still looks sh!te

I couldn't agree more (see the bolded bit above).

My point was aimed more at the "why bother?" and "what's the point?" crowd that tend to swarm/hivemind around these kinds of cars.

C70R I know what you're saying. My issue (I wouldn't even call it that, it's really just an observation) with the car is the premise for building it.

Doing stuff to your car for fun - fine, even if it's not to my taste, it's not my car or money so whatever.

But whenever I've seen this car online - which has inadvertently been quite a lot with Instagram and the like - all I keep seeing is how 'against the grain', 'breaking the mold', 'outside of the box' etc it is.

It's none of those things. If it was entered into a concours event it might be against the grain, but in the 'scene' that it belongs to it is just an extreme caricature of the rest of the cars around it. Go to a 'DUB' or 'STANCE' show and you'll see much of the same. You might not see them often on the street but at these shows and gatherings it's really just car after car with massive camber, stretch, poke, wings and windscreen stickers.

If you go to somewhere like SEMA in Las Vegas, you'll see truly ground breaking, out of the box builds.

I'm not hating on the kid for doing what he wants to his own car, it's probably all just a bit of fun to him so fair play in that respect, my opinion of the car won't affect him and nor should it, and it's probably not even the owner himself that thinks the car is the reinvention of the wheel but the adoring fans on social media..

[2ono]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferrari-F40-replica-/331...