Badly modified cars thread Mk2
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SpamCan said:
irocfan said:
Do badly modified tanks go in here too?
Tiger 1
What on earth is that based on?Tiger 1
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT-LB
Wasn't this the 'tiger' built as a prop for Saving Private Ryan?
feef said:
Russian MT-LB APC I believe
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT-LB
Wasn't this the 'tiger' built as a prop for Saving Private Ryan?
SPR Tiger was pretty good, I think it was a modded T34 (like Kelly's Heroes)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT-LB
Wasn't this the 'tiger' built as a prop for Saving Private Ryan?
Alan L said:
Slow said:
Just google what he said he owns
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feef said:
SpamCan said:
irocfan said:
Do badly modified tanks go in here too?
Tiger 1
What on earth is that based on?Tiger 1
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT-LB
Wasn't this the 'tiger' built as a prop for Saving Private Ryan?
Hugo a Gogo said:
SPR Tiger was pretty good, I think it was a modded T34 (like Kelly's Heroes)
The 'Saving Private Ryan' Tiger is indeed a modified T34. It's in the Land Warfare Hall at the Imperial War Museum in Duxford......and it's displayed directly opposite a standard T-34 so you can look for the similarities under the movie 'make up'.
MT-LB is a 1970s (very) lightly armoured Artillery tractor and APC design in use by quite a few nations around the world. Based origianally on the PT-76 light tank (chassis/suspension) and using 'off the shelf' parts like a truck engine, it was cheap and relatively simple to build, and they're almost ten a penny scrap and surplus now as even the less developed nations begin replacing what is a forty-odd year old design with more modern, better protected kit.
The same suspension and drive components were used on several variant vehicles, including the ZSU 23-4 Anti Aircraft Artillery 'tank' and the 2P25 Surface to Air missile launcher (NATO reporting name: SA-6 "Gainful").
The trouble is, I'm pretty sure that all of the above variants have 6 road wheels, while the unconvincing 'Tiger' replica has 7. The 2S1 self propelled 122mm artillery piece had a redesigned chassis/hull with 7 road wheels, but the turret of that replica appears to be too far forward for a 2S1,and the driving position too far back. The 'turret' would be fitted directly over the engine too, so highly impractical...
I think it might actually be based on a PPRU-1 (9S80M) Russian mobile radar or command vehicle. The height of the hull and forward driving position seem to be correct, along with the 7 road wheels. There was also a mid 1990s upgraded MT-LB, unimaginatively called the MT-LB(U), with a similar 7 road wheel chassis/hull, but without any of the top secret sneaky-beaky radar and 3C kit inside it.
MT-LB(U) for sale... http://www.prewarcar.com/index.php?option=com_cara... - or - http://militarytechnics.com/vehicles/mtlbu/mtlbu/ ...and if you go with counting the wheels in the photographs rather than believing the rather lazy cut/paste text description (for a standard MT-LB) then I think I'd probably go with this as "my final answer, Chris"...
Apologies for "showing my workings-out", but this one had me intrigued. In a former career I taught vehicle recognition, and I was annoyed that I couldn't immediately state with confidence what the base vehicle was!
Slow said:
Alan L said:
Slow said:
Just google what he said he owns
Ah it's a Barry boy Chavved up skyline, quite why anyone would do that to a nice car is beyond me. They want shootinghttp://neweraimports.com/soldcarDetails.jsp?carId=...
https://www.autogespot.com/spots?licenseplate=M300...
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/314729-black-r34-tommy-...
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/144717-tommy-kaira-25r-...
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