Unsafe Mods - Extreme Dubs / Drifters / Stance etc.

[iva cosworth]

"Tearing off both its bumpers"

nuff said.

[e21Mark]

Oh dear.

What were they held on with, that they'd come off so easily anyway?

[vsonix]

Buff Mchugelarge said:

nurseholliday said:

You may think it looks st but when you're sideways at maximum lock, you want the biggest contact patch on the tarmac. As a wheel turns, it cambers in a positive direction. A car with -5 on the front when the wheels are pointing straight ahead will have 0 camber at full lock ensuring maximum grip.

That amount of camber is for show.
An F1 car runs around 3.5 degrees of negative camber on the front, between 0 and 1 on the rear.
A road car can't get anywhere near that amount of lateral G, if a car is getting 5 degrees of camber movement when cornering I'd imagine it's probably broken.

That is the whole point of modifying a car specifically for the purpose of drifting - i.e. modified hubs, drop links, steering rack etc. By and large, people into drifting will midify a car specifically for the purpose, hence lowering, camber, massive power, less grip at rear blah blah. Of course some of these things seem counter-intuitive for a road car, but then by and large, a 'drift slag' tends to get driven to the track and back but most probably not used as a daily.

[Gary C]

vsonix said:

Buff Mchugelarge said:

nurseholliday said:

You may think it looks st but when you're sideways at maximum lock, you want the biggest contact patch on the tarmac. As a wheel turns, it cambers in a positive direction. A car with -5 on the front when the wheels are pointing straight ahead will have 0 camber at full lock ensuring maximum grip.

That amount of camber is for show.
An F1 car runs around 3.5 degrees of negative camber on the front, between 0 and 1 on the rear.
A road car can't get anywhere near that amount of lateral G, if a car is getting 5 degrees of camber movement when cornering I'd imagine it's probably broken.

That is the whole point of modifying a car specifically for the purpose of drifting - i.e. modified hubs, drop links, steering rack etc. By and large, people into drifting will midify a car specifically for the purpose, hence lowering, camber, massive power, less grip at rear blah blah. Of course some of these things seem counter-intuitive for a road car, but then by and large, a 'drift slag' tends to get driven to the track and back but most probably not used as a daily.

While drifting seems to have quite 'exotic' setup's, nowhere can I see a championship drift car running the sort of negative camber that s13 pictured was running especially on the rear, which appears solely for looks and the poster who claimed it was, is talking bks.

Edited by Gary C on Sunday 15th June 23:01

[otolith]

[Wills2]

Mr2Mike said:

Andy616 said:

That was just left over after they took the protective tape off as it was rushed to make the Tokyo Auto Salon. It gets driven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhT3C9mHLZ4

Note only does it look like st, it sounds like it's trying to have one but only succeeds in a wet fart.

Crazy Japanese, watching that made me laugh out loud, they cannot be serious.

[Mastodon2]

otolith said:

[vx220]

otolith said:

His hands are upside down!

...and how the hell is he holding the camera? And what appendage is he using to press the shutter? ;-)

[otolith]

vx220 said:

His hands are upside down!

If you've seen the origin of the meme, they really aren't!

[mighty kitten]

[lord trumpton]

These stanced cars look crap

[Olivera]

Interesting to note that many touring cars run lots of rear camber giving an almost stance-like appearance

[KarlMac]

Olivera said:

Interesting to note that many touring cars run lots of rear camber giving an almost stance-like appearance

But he's going to DIE!


wont someone think of the children!?

[e21Mark]

KarlMac said:

Olivera said:

Interesting to note that many touring cars run lots of rear camber giving an almost stance-like appearance

But he's going to DIE!


wont someone think of the children!?

I doubt they run 195/45 Nangkang on a 9" rim though.

[Crafty_]

Olivera said:

Interesting to note that many touring cars run lots of rear camber giving an almost stance-like appearance

Except that the tyre actually fits the rim and is designed to withstand the abuse it will get, its also got a designed life of a few hundred miles or so at best.

The rest of the geometry will have nothing to do with anything roadgoing either.

[zeppelin101]

This, and all the other threads ripping people's modified cars only serves to highlight how wonderfully snobby and cliquey the world of car enthusiasts is.

[Mr2Mike]

zeppelin101 said:

This, and all the other threads ripping people's modified cars only serves to highlight how wonderfully snobby and cliquey the world of car enthusiasts is.

On the contrary, it serves to show that people of low IQ and those who are easily influenced by their peers and the media should never be allowed near cars.

[zeppelin101]

What an excellent way to prove my point.

[hairykrishna]

zeppelin101 said:

This, and all the other threads ripping people's modified cars only serves to highlight how wonderfully snobby and cliquey the world of car enthusiasts is.

It's not snobbery to think that people running stretched tyres are dangerous.

[zeppelin101]

No, but saying that this that and the other mod makes the car look st and is pointless and the owner must therefore be retarded because they don't agree with your point of view sure as st is.