VW Golf 7 R -- Chipped -- 0 to 60 in 4 Seconds...

[Sustanon400]

The golf will be fine with the extra power I'm sure , there's a mk6 r going around with over 500bhp that's recorded a 0-60 in 2.7, all on stock DSG clutches , stock engine internals ! No prop trouble either

Oh, and it's done over 1000 launches and been ultra reliable .

Seems VW have got their act together these days


Ps, I might add, if it was my mk7 I'd wait for giac or apr map to be released

Edited by Sustanon400 on Thursday 12th June 10:45

[R26Andy]

lamboman100 said:

for a 0 to 60 mph time of somewhere in the region of 4.1 to 4.6 seconds. :

Where did this come from? I cant believe an extra 59hp/70nm would knock 0.7-0.8s off the standard 0-60 time (5.3 manual and 4.9 for DSG).

[Sustanon400]

R26Andy said:

Where did this come from? I cant believe an extra 59hp/70nm would knock 0.7-0.8s off the standard 0-60 time (5.3 manual and 4.9 for DSG).

I can, it's the extra torque and let's not forget , VW have been understating the stock 0-60 to begin with

[anonymous-user]

Sustanon400 said:

The golf will be fine with the extra power I'm sure , there's a mk6 r going around with over 500bhp that's recorded a 0-60 in 2.7, all on stock DSG clutches , stock engine internals ! No prop trouble either

Oh, and it's done over 1000 launches and been ultra reliable .

That's ok then.

[toerag]

I'd imagine it's the same for VW

[s m]

R26Andy said:

lamboman100 said:

for a 0 to 60 mph time of somewhere in the region of 4.1 to 4.6 seconds. :

Where did this come from? I cant believe an extra 59hp/70nm would knock 0.7-0.8s off the standard 0-60 time (5.3 manual and 4.9 for DSG).

Autocar test car with DSG did a 4.8 in streaming wet conditions. Properly timed so not a manufacturer figure

[R26Andy]

Ok, sounds more plausible to me now if the standard cars are hitting those sorts of times.

[the-photographer]

s m said:

R26Andy said:

lamboman100 said:

for a 0 to 60 mph time of somewhere in the region of 4.1 to 4.6 seconds. :

Where did this come from? I cant believe an extra 59hp/70nm would knock 0.7-0.8s off the standard 0-60 time (5.3 manual and 4.9 for DSG).

Autocar test car with DSG did a 4.8 in streaming wet conditions. Properly timed so not a manufacturer figure

VW driver got 4.7 and a low as 4.5 using launch control.

[Sustanon400]

the-photographer said:

VW driver got 4.7 and a low as 4.5 using launch control.

That's great

At 3000 revs , stock launch control is pathetically low , once the DSG maps come out and raise it to something more realistic like 4200 you'll be seeing 0-60 in the high 3's in stage 1 mapped cars, that's impressive

[lamboman100]

Sustanon400 said:

the-photographer said:

VW driver got 4.7 and a low as 4.5 using launch control.

That's great

At 3000 revs , stock launch control is pathetically low , once the DSG maps come out and raise it to something more realistic like 4200 you'll be seeing 0-60 in the high 3's in stage 1 mapped cars, that's impressive

The oft-quoted "4.9secs DSG" number seems to refer to the 62mph / 100kph speed for Europe. For UK 60mph, the stock DSG seems to be anywhere between 4.5 and 4.9secs, depending on who you talk to.

Some of the German tuners already seem to be getting around 4.1 to 4.6secs for 62mph for a 325 - 375bhp remap... So, somewhere under 4.5secs to 60mph for a basic remap and filter seems easily achievable.

The Golf 7R is quickly shaping up to be a modern classic. Wolf in sheep's clothing 'n' all that.

[EricE]

Hard to believe a Golf can go from 0-60 in less than 4 seconds but it looks like its true. A local company offers a 380PS/480Nm remap for the new R.
I don't think that’s possible with stock internals but then again I know nothing about these engines and the Golf R 400 has the same block with similar numbers and a claimed 0-62 of 3.9 (probably closer to 3.7 in reality).

Stupid fast if you think about it...

[J4CKO]

Wonder if people are still buying the GTI ?

Will be interesting to see what comes onto the market second hand in a couple of years, lot of these and 135i's beign leased so might be some decent hot hatches coming onto the market.

Bit of a bloodbath at the 30k price point these days.

[EricE]

J4CKO said:

Wonder if people are still buying the GTI ?

Will be interesting to see what comes onto the market second hand in a couple of years, lot of these and 135i's beign leased so might be some decent hot hatches coming onto the market.

Bit of a bloodbath at the 30k price point these days.

The GTI is still good value, many reviewers report that the GTI with the Performance Package handles better than the Golf R because of the new electronic locking differential (with real torque vectoring) and no extra weight from AWD. My understanding is that the Golf R uses Haldex 5 and simulates a locking diff via braking.

Auto Express claims that the GTI PP (220 hp) is faster than the Golf R (300 hp) around their course. The Seat Cupra (280 hp FWD with same diff as GTI PP) was one second faster than the Golf R (300hp AWD) in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed...

I suppose the ideal combination would be the new electronic torque vectoring front diff plus AWD in the Golf R.
But we will have to wait for the next generation for that... or maybe the R 400?

[Jimmy No Hands]

I can't believe they're producing a Golf that will pip a DB9 to 60 mph. I know they're expensive and a bit garish and not very subtle in R guise, but I'd still have a lot of fun upsetting folk in one.

[Mr Trophy]

I wanted to get my TT remapped - ended up not doing it because apparently it's not as easy as it used to be and my warranty would automatically go. I was out after he said that.

[lamboman100]

anonymous said:

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The Auto Express test looks a little odd.

Auto Build Germany recently found the Golf 7R coming within a whisker of the M135i, and ahead of the S3, on the track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAtsh40JqGI&fe...

[Joeguard1990]

Why would you waste money tuning a LEASED car when you have to give it back at the end of the lease period?!

[scherzkeks]

lamboman100 said:

The Auto Express test looks a little odd.

Auto Build Germany recently found the Golf 7R coming within a whisker of the M135i, and ahead of the S3, on the track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAtsh40JqGI&fe...

The results were the same from Sport Auto. Not sure anyone takes Auto Express seriously anyways.

[Gixer]

xxChrisxx said:

It's not a physical chip. It's a remap of the ECU. There would indeed be a trace. You can tell how many times the ECU has been flashed with a new map. Would anyone find out at regular servicing, probably not. When you roll in with a DCT failure after 20k miles, I suspect they'd be inclined to look a little harder, at which point they will find out.

I don't really see why you would want to map it, beyond willy waving. It's more than fast enough for the road as it is. Stock it's circa 4.5-4.7 seconds to 60.

Part of my job is maintaining the Btac servers at VAG sites. I should imagine it would be picked up as soon as the car went in for regular service. Every car is plugged into the workshop vas machine which will interrogate the car and communicate to Germany.

[Pickled Piper]

Joeguard1990 said:

Why would you waste money tuning a LEASED car when you have to give it back at the end of the lease period?!

This indeed.

Also, as everyone knows, lease cars are faster than privately owned ones.