VW Golf 7 R -- Chipped -- 0 to 60 in 4 Seconds...
Discussion
ORD said:
AWD is probably the least enjoyable set up for road driving - it is designed for safety and ease rather than enjoyment. The car does most of the cornering for you by shuffling torque around, braking wheels, etc. I have never driven an AWD car that I found fun
Wow -- just wow. PH gold. 
scherzkeks]RD said:
AWD is probably the least enjoyable set up for road driving - it is designed for safety and ease rather than enjoyment. The car does most of the cornering for you by shuffling torque around, braking wheels, etc. I have never driven an AWD car that I found fun
Wow -- just wow. PH gold. 
ORD said:
Blown2CV said:
ORD said:
Blown2CV said:
it is good, but it seems to attract hate from at least 1/4 of PH because it's not a V8/posh make/very thirsty. Somehow because it's pretty good and pretty cheap that means it's not a REAL PH car. TBH I couldn't give a f
k. I like it.
I wont pretend to speak for the "haters", as I am both impressed by and uninterested in the R. I think that makes me a resounding fence-sitter k. I like it.
However, it seems to me that the haters have some pretty legitimate reasons to criticise the R as a performance/sporty car and are not, as you suggest, being unrealistic. As far as I can see, the main criticisms are as follows:-
(1) It is overpriced for a blown 2l hatch.
(2) The front-engine + Haldex combination makes it compromised as a "sporty" drive.
(3) The engine is effective but uninspiring.
I don't think it is unrealistic to say "It would be nice to have a NA hatchback with a genuine engine note and a bit of character". Badge has literally nothing to do with it (and never has in relation to hot hatches - I like a Renault, for example!).
£31k is a huge amount of money for a Golf. It really is. No matter how you cut it by finance or leasing, it is a lot of money for a 4 cyl hatch.
It is uninspiring in that it has an engine that is designed purely for performance and efficiency rather than enjoyment (see e.g. it's torque curve which is more like an Ecoboost than a 6 cyl sports car engine). It sounds like turd, too, which is hard to avoid but still a fact.
Why would a test drive an R given that I know there is no way I would want one? It's like asking me whether or not I have kissed a man if I say I prefer women
I have driven the GTI, which I quite like, and can't say more power would have sold me on it, especially if that came with more weight.
The Golf R was just voted the 3rd best performance car by Top Gear mag... Beaten only by a Porker and Macca...
Many seem to be struggling to comprehend the shift that is taking place before their eyes.
VW (and MB) have upped their game.
The R and R400 (and A45) are game-changers.
R is the new M
Many seem to be struggling to comprehend the shift that is taking place before their eyes.
VW (and MB) have upped their game.
The R and R400 (and A45) are game-changers.
R is the new M
lamboman100 said:
The Golf R was just voted the 3rd best performance car by Top Gear mag... Beaten only by a Porker and Macca...
Many seem to be struggling to comprehend the shift that is taking place before their eyes.
VW (and MB) have upped their game.
The R and R400 (and A45) are game-changers.
R is the new M
Only a first class wind-up merchant would cite Top Gear Magazine.Many seem to be struggling to comprehend the shift that is taking place before their eyes.
VW (and MB) have upped their game.
The R and R400 (and A45) are game-changers.
R is the new M
I doff my cap to you, good Sir.
seems we think alike on that one. The rate of posts in a short time is a clear indication....J4CKO said:
IvanSTi said:
J4CKO said:
What I want to know is, how many of the leased ones (Golf R/135i) will end up remapped ?
For me, it seems like there is a lot of talk of insane performance once remapped, but nobody seems to
actually buy either outright ?
I have no issue with leasing, just seems to be a bit of a oxymoron going on.
Am sure some people buy these cars outright or on a deal where they end up actually owning it but do people modify cars that don't actually belong to them ?
Can see it is pretty compelling, 3 grand or so down, £300 a month for a couple of years and what, £500 to get it remapped to 370 bhp, so if you have four grand, you can drive a brand new, 370 bhp car ? does that sound right ?
Who cares who the car belongs to, how many people who modify cars, actually keep their cars for a long time?For me, it seems like there is a lot of talk of insane performance once remapped, but nobody seems to
actually buy either outright ?
I have no issue with leasing, just seems to be a bit of a oxymoron going on.
Am sure some people buy these cars outright or on a deal where they end up actually owning it but do people modify cars that don't actually belong to them ?
Can see it is pretty compelling, 3 grand or so down, £300 a month for a couple of years and what, £500 to get it remapped to 370 bhp, so if you have four grand, you can drive a brand new, 370 bhp car ? does that sound right ?
I for one, have spent and am going to spend, a fortune on my car. I'm under no illusions that I am going to keep the car a long time, unless I do decide to take it off the road and race it.
So that money, I/we who modify cars, have spent, is going to be lost* anyway.
*Yes you do get some of it back, but certainly no where near what has been spent.
modify a car they don't actually own because it seems pretty prevalent on these latest fast hatches, effectively it isn't theirs to modify is the point I am making.
For t'other person up there who asked if I admit to modifying a leased car, no, my own car.
Wills2 said:
Not difficult to look in his profile, Cayman S
I tend not to do that. So drives a £50k car and dives into a thread discussing an entirely different type of car that's considerably cheaper than his, saying it's st by comparison? Well it would be wouldn't it? I can only hope that a 911 turbo owner dips into your cayman thread to tell you your car is wk and maybe you'll understand. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff