VW Golf 7 R -- Chipped -- 0 to 60 in 4 Seconds...

VW Golf 7 R -- Chipped -- 0 to 60 in 4 Seconds...

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JagXJR

1,261 posts

128 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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bigkeeko said:
People can say what they like but Cock waving is everything to most people in the UK

Point scoring and being `in front` is life to the majority.

To be honest I know someone with one coming and I`ll blag a go to see how it compares in `lift` to my leviathan.
Fixed that for you wink

JagXJR

1,261 posts

128 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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lamboman100 said:
rb5er said:
lamboman100 said:
rb5er said:
lamboman100 said:
The GTI 1 ushered in the hot-hatch era in 1975. The R 7 has ushered in the super-hatch era in 2013 / 2014.
Fanboi perhaps?

You hadn`t notice a particularly fast hatchback until this car really?
Nah, just recognize and acknowledge when the game is changing.

Everyday shopping trolleys are entering a new era of fast speeds and turbos.

No longer the preserve of six-figure cars or rally geeks.
But you said the new Golf has "ushered in the superhatch era".

Really are you saying no car was there before it? Howsabout the impreza STI hatch doing the same thing years ago? Did that not "usher in an era"? or perhaps the Lancia Delta Integrale and Escort Cosworth etc did it 20 years ago?

Saying the Golf has somehow ushered in an era that these cars have been representing for years just seems like fanboyism unless you just forgot that others have been around a long time.

Rally geeks? Really? This is a petrolhead site.

So how is "the game changing" as you put it?
Imprezas, Integrales and Cosworths are great cars, but they are for rally geeks and chavsters.

The Golf R can be driven by chavs
Was going to wait until I read the rest of the thread before posting but this had to be commented on!

Fixed the above comment for you.

I would like to see both the Lancia Delta Integrale and Escort Cosworth up against the Golf, apart from the launch control getting them off the line quicker, I reckon a rolling start match would be very interesting!
As much as I dislike them, Audi are actually the king of AWD hatches, ever since the original Quattro arrived and decimated the competition.

The Golf may be a fast competent car, but to say it is ground-breaking is ignoring history.

JagXJR

1,261 posts

128 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Mouse1903 said:
I'm really tempted to test drive one of these but scared I would look at every option to see how I could afford it. Beautiful car in the flesh.
Eh? Beautiful? There are shops you can go to to correct your vision!

Nice cars they may be, lots of good points but no way beautiful!

Not a Golf hater, as anyone on here who says anything negative about the Golf is claimed to be. Just a realist.

EricE

1,945 posts

128 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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JagXJR said:
Eh? Beautiful? There are shops you can go to to correct your vision!

Nice cars they may be, lots of good points but no way beautiful!

Not a Golf hater, as anyone on here who says anything negative about the Golf is claimed to be. Just a realist.
Haha, this thread just keeps getting worse and worse.

JagXJR

1,261 posts

128 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Clivey said:
Poster 1: I don't like Ice watches. - Not for me. Sorry chaps.

Poster 2: How can you say that when haven't tried this Ice watch. It's the best there ever has been in the entire big wide world. You're only saying that because you can't afford one. Your opinion's irrelevant anyway because you only have a Casio...Oh, you have an Omega? Well it's still irrelevant. - Posh bcensoredd.
biglaugh Like it smile

JagXJR

1,261 posts

128 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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tomjol said:
It is a completely legitimate view IMHO.

However some might argue that, if that is your view, getting involved in a discussion about these vehicles is an unusual way to behave.
Fully agree! Right up until the point where it is claimed to hunt down Ferraris and similar. Then expect some less than favourable comments wink

JagXJR

1,261 posts

128 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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EricE said:
Haha, this thread just keeps getting worse and worse.
It didn't start off that great when posters compared a Golf to a supercar TBH

epom

11,399 posts

160 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Anything about the actual car in the previous 20 pages of drivel ?

Clivey

5,108 posts

203 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Blown2CV said:
nobody said that though did they? Everyone knows a fking Golf is not as good as a Porsche, it just doesn't really need saying does it? So a Porsche owner pissing all over some quite happy Golf owners is more than a bit crass and a dick move, IMHO.
I think the issue is that some seem to think this iteration is all things to all men and can't understand anyone who says different. It might be a very good small family car with a bit of pace but the way some go on about it, it's as if there's a cure for cancer tucked-away in the glovebox and world peace spews from the exhaust tips. There are a lot of things I personally like about the car but when people start talking about it "hunting down a Ferrari 458" it becomes comical.


Jayessgee

196 posts

126 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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When I happen upon a topic that is of interest to me (heard mixed reviews about Golf R, so thought I'd read this topic) I always skip to the final page, to see if it's descended into the usual nonsense before I waste my time reading it.

Glad this hasn't disappointed.

Anyone actually got a Golf R and written anything about it? Good or bad. Just interested to know what they're like.

lamboman100

Original Poster:

1,445 posts

120 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Jayessgee said:
When I happen upon a topic that is of interest to me (heard mixed reviews about Golf R, so thought I'd read this topic) I always skip to the final page, to see if it's descended into the usual nonsense before I waste my time reading it.

Glad this hasn't disappointed.

Anyone actually got a Golf R and written anything about it? Good or bad. Just interested to know what they're like.
Buy the July issue of Top Gear magazine. In their overall test, the Golf R Mk7 beats everything, from the Porsche Cayman GTS to the BMW M4. The R Mk7 looks set to join the Mk1 / Mk2 GTI as a landmark car.

Jayessgee

196 posts

126 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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lamboman100 said:
Buy the July issue of Top Gear magazine. In their overall test, the Golf R Mk7 beats everything, from the Porsche Cayman GTS to the BMW M4. The R Mk7 looks set to join the Mk1 / Mk2 GTI as a landmark car.
Excellent. Thank you.

Blown2CV

28,697 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Clivey said:
Blown2CV said:
nobody said that though did they? Everyone knows a fking Golf is not as good as a Porsche, it just doesn't really need saying does it? So a Porsche owner pissing all over some quite happy Golf owners is more than a bit crass and a dick move, IMHO.
I think the issue is that some seem to think this iteration is all things to all men and can't understand anyone who says different. It might be a very good small family car with a bit of pace but the way some go on about it, it's as if there's a cure for cancer tucked-away in the glovebox and world peace spews from the exhaust tips. There are a lot of things I personally like about the car but when people start talking about it "hunting down a Ferrari 458" it becomes comical.
i'd agree completely, anyone saying it's a Ferrari-beater or best car in the world has clearly eaten to many sweets and needs to have some quiet time.

Blown2CV

28,697 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Jayessgee said:
When I happen upon a topic that is of interest to me (heard mixed reviews about Golf R, so thought I'd read this topic) I always skip to the final page, to see if it's descended into the usual nonsense before I waste my time reading it.

Glad this hasn't disappointed.

Anyone actually got a Golf R and written anything about it? Good or bad. Just interested to know what they're like.
yep, got one. 3Dr DSG. It's great, and especially for the double-take cheap lease price. Superb value.

Blown2CV

28,697 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Jayessgee said:
lamboman100 said:
Buy the July issue of Top Gear magazine. In their overall test, the Golf R Mk7 beats everything, from the Porsche Cayman GTS to the BMW M4. The R Mk7 looks set to join the Mk1 / Mk2 GTI as a landmark car.
Excellent. Thank you.
what does an overall test mean though... a 1960s land rover beats a porsche in a trip to the garden centre to buy a shed.

It's practical-ish, but with the AWD it has quite a lot smaller boot than an FWD Golf. It's pretty fast, pretty grippy, got back seats, nice toys, comfy. It might sacrifice character a bit, but it's in the same (lease) price bracket as some really fking boring st. Don't compare it to unfairly to Porsches, compare it to a diesel focus.

neil1jnr

1,460 posts

154 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Blown2CV said:
ORD said:
Blown2CV said:
it is good, but it seems to attract hate from at least 1/4 of PH because it's not a V8/posh make/very thirsty. Somehow because it's pretty good and pretty cheap that means it's not a REAL PH car. TBH I couldn't give a fk. I like it.
I wont pretend to speak for the "haters", as I am both impressed by and uninterested in the R. I think that makes me a resounding fence-sitter biggrin

However, it seems to me that the haters have some pretty legitimate reasons to criticise the R as a performance/sporty car and are not, as you suggest, being unrealistic. As far as I can see, the main criticisms are as follows:-

(1) It is overpriced for a blown 2l hatch.
(2) The front-engine + Haldex combination makes it compromised as a "sporty" drive.
(3) The engine is effective but uninspiring.

I don't think it is unrealistic to say "It would be nice to have a NA hatchback with a genuine engine note and a bit of character". Badge has literally nothing to do with it (and never has in relation to hot hatches - I like a Renault, for example!).
i don't know how many other cars have 300bhp for £31k but as i've said, it's very cheap on a lease at the moment so cost argument isn't really valid. So I just want to understand what you mean by compromised drive and uninspiring. They sound like motoring journalist words. Have you actually driven one and are you comparing it with something else, fairly?
I have driven one and I agree with his statement, better off with the Leon Cupra 280, it is the better drivers car.

memyselfncraig

4 posts

115 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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lamboman100 said:
Buy the July issue of Top Gear magazine. In their overall test, the Golf R Mk7 beats everything, from the Porsche Cayman GTS to the BMW M4. The R Mk7 looks set to join the Mk1 / Mk2 GTI as a landmark car.
Don't mean to nit-pick but the Golf was tied to the Audi S1 until someone set fire to the latter...
Nevertheless, it's pretty impressive to see it alongside the P1 and the M4 etc

Actus Reus

4,229 posts

154 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Jayessgee said:
When I happen upon a topic that is of interest to me (heard mixed reviews about Golf R, so thought I'd read this topic) I always skip to the final page, to see if it's descended into the usual nonsense before I waste my time reading it.

Glad this hasn't disappointed.

Anyone actually got a Golf R and written anything about it? Good or bad. Just interested to know what they're like.
Yeah, I've got one - they're pretty good actually. Had a proper hoon in it over the weekend now it's run-in and it's a decent amount of fun. I'll always prefer larger capacity NA engines, by some margin (having come from a 3.4 Cayman S), but apart from that, I really enjoyed the 'R' across my usual route - and two-stage switchable traction control is , IMHO, a great thing to have. I would write more, but I can't be arsed to argue with people who have never so much as sat in one, but still think the M135i is better (having also never sat in one of those).

memyselfncraig

4 posts

115 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Jayessgee said:
When I happen upon a topic that is of interest to me (heard mixed reviews about Golf R, so thought I'd read this topic) I always skip to the final page, to see if it's descended into the usual nonsense before I waste my time reading it.

Glad this hasn't disappointed.

Anyone actually got a Golf R and written anything about it? Good or bad. Just interested to know what they're like.
I loved my test drive, though it was a DSG which wouldn't be my choice. Having owned a mk5 R32 it was definitely missing the same growl as the new R is a very refined motor especially at idle I found it very quiet. If it wasn't for that Soundaktor they use to pump engine noise into the cabin I assume you wouldn't hear much at all.

Having said that, 300bhp with 4WD, its a very very capable car.

Oh yes and blah blah insert strong bias opinion blah blah blah

Ali_T

3,379 posts

256 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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lamboman100 said:
Buy the July issue of Top Gear magazine. In their overall test, the Golf R Mk7 beats everything, from the Porsche Cayman GTS to the BMW M4. The R Mk7 looks set to join the Mk1 / Mk2 GTI as a landmark car.
Yup, it did. Which left me wondering if I test drove a completely different model to them because I found it very capable and fast but, ultimately, completely sterile with a ride quality that made me dislike it within 10 miles.