VW Golf 7 R -- Chipped -- 0 to 60 in 4 Seconds...
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I suppose acceleration and capability are, with this latest breed of hot hatches and the Nissan GTR is becoming cheaper and more accessible, notice I said cheaper, and not cheap.
I am thinking that when everyone can do sixty in around four seconds or less it becomes less of a quest and I am thinking that performance numbers may be less of a focus relative to dynamics and driving enjoyment, acceleration is part of that but not all. That said it does get a good write up.
I am thinking that when everyone can do sixty in around four seconds or less it becomes less of a quest and I am thinking that performance numbers may be less of a focus relative to dynamics and driving enjoyment, acceleration is part of that but not all. That said it does get a good write up.
St John Smythe said:
powerstroke said:
Fast but dull ,a speed camera on every road and lower limits on just about any interesting road what is the point ???
I haven't driven one yet but might consider one to replace our ageing mk5 GTI. What did you find dull? The reviews seem v positive.I tested one last night, was quite impressed. Reminded me on the RS3 a bit in the speed stakes.
The pedal when you floor it moves a short bit extra after the revs are up above 4k I felt. I think I preferred the noise in normal.
I liked the feel of the steering wheel and the seats were nicely bolstered. The steering wheel has a lot of buttons to play about with for cruise etc so think it will take me a while to get used to everything so should not get bored for a while.
I do not think anything changes on the map from normal to race but does on eco.
I asked about warranty and remaps, the Edinburgh dealer does Revo maps (not available for the R yet) which do not invalidate the warranty. The other option is to get another ECU which would cost a lot.
Car was red and standard apart from the 19s. They look great but I would rather just buy another set of nice 18s which I could sell on after the 2 years.
Overall the car was better than I was expecting and I am quite looking forward to the end of Sept. It reminded me of when I borrowed a friends classic Subaru over 10 years ago.
The pedal when you floor it moves a short bit extra after the revs are up above 4k I felt. I think I preferred the noise in normal.
I liked the feel of the steering wheel and the seats were nicely bolstered. The steering wheel has a lot of buttons to play about with for cruise etc so think it will take me a while to get used to everything so should not get bored for a while.
I do not think anything changes on the map from normal to race but does on eco.
I asked about warranty and remaps, the Edinburgh dealer does Revo maps (not available for the R yet) which do not invalidate the warranty. The other option is to get another ECU which would cost a lot.
Car was red and standard apart from the 19s. They look great but I would rather just buy another set of nice 18s which I could sell on after the 2 years.
Overall the car was better than I was expecting and I am quite looking forward to the end of Sept. It reminded me of when I borrowed a friends classic Subaru over 10 years ago.
Edited by Soupie69uk on Friday 13th June 09:43
I test drove one a couple of weeks back and came to the conclussion it was very nice. It just wasn't earth shattering and didn't make me want to put a deposit down there and then. Still thinking about it but it's not a car I think I'd ever fall for and forgive flaws. It's a very fast means of practically getting from A to B, no more. The A45, for it's flaws, was a far more visceral and enjoyable car, even if it lacks the 10/10ths balance that few of us will ever be able to compare...
And I have to laugh at all this talk of launching cars off the lights and 0-60 in 4 secs. Do people still do that these days? Maybe I'm getting too old, but....really? Is this Pistonheads or Max Power?
And I have to laugh at all this talk of launching cars off the lights and 0-60 in 4 secs. Do people still do that these days? Maybe I'm getting too old, but....really? Is this Pistonheads or Max Power?
rb5er said:
So a tuned Golf R is almost as wuick as a standard Evo 9 fq360 from 7 years ago?
Finally VW are starting to catch up.
Are you joking? What were the service intervals on the Evo, smart arse? How about the fuel economy? Back in your box then...Finally VW are starting to catch up.
My Mk6 had around 360bhp/360lbs/ft and would do a 3.6 0-60 dash. Up until you got into three figures it felt no slower than the Turbo S. The DSG maps can also shave a little if you live at Santa Pod.
You can't really throw the '0-60 is irrelevant' at the Golf because the torque means it is quick EVERYWHERE. And just think, the Mk7 is nigh on 100kg lighter than the Mk6!
More importantly, on the Mk6 you had to fork out quite a bit for the uprated fuel pump, whereas the Mk7 doesn't need one. It is a ridiculous amount of performance for your money.
Ali_T said:
And I have to laugh at all this talk of launching cars off the lights and 0-60 in 4 secs. Do people still do that these days? Maybe I'm getting too old, but....really? Is this Pistonheads or Max Power?
It doesn't matter if it ever happens. It's just nice to know one has the option take off from the lights like a hooligan.The Golf R is a decent compromise car IMHO - quick, decently built, practical enough, and discreet enough that you don't look a total t
t when you turn up somewhere in one (ignoring the oft repeated 'OMG 4 exhausts!' argument that seems to, for some reason, dominate PH thinking on VAG cars lately). It's not the ultimate b-road or track weapon, but if you have £30k to spend on a car, and only have room in your life for one car, it's not a bad choice at all. The M135i is generally admired here, despite its looks, but for some reason only a select few here seem to think the Golf can be even nearly as good - in spite of most reviews preferring the Golf. I've driven one and compared it to the S3, M135i and A45, and they're all fine cars, and I'd have quite happily had any of them, but the Golf was my favourite to drive, and then miles cheaper on a lease deal. My R arrives in a couple of weeks - and I can't wait.
t when you turn up somewhere in one (ignoring the oft repeated 'OMG 4 exhausts!' argument that seems to, for some reason, dominate PH thinking on VAG cars lately). It's not the ultimate b-road or track weapon, but if you have £30k to spend on a car, and only have room in your life for one car, it's not a bad choice at all. The M135i is generally admired here, despite its looks, but for some reason only a select few here seem to think the Golf can be even nearly as good - in spite of most reviews preferring the Golf. I've driven one and compared it to the S3, M135i and A45, and they're all fine cars, and I'd have quite happily had any of them, but the Golf was my favourite to drive, and then miles cheaper on a lease deal. My R arrives in a couple of weeks - and I can't wait. hondansx said:
rb5er said:
So a tuned Golf R is almost as wuick as a standard Evo 9 fq360 from 7 years ago?
Finally VW are starting to catch up.
Are you joking? What were the service intervals on the Evo, smart arse? How about the fuel economy? Back in your box then...Finally VW are starting to catch up.
My Mk6 had around 360bhp/360lbs/ft and would do a 3.6 0-60 dash. Up until you got into three figures it felt no slower than the Turbo S. The DSG maps can also shave a little if you live at Santa Pod.
You can't really throw the '0-60 is irrelevant' at the Golf because the torque means it is quick EVERYWHERE. And just think, the Mk7 is nigh on 100kg lighter than the Mk6!
More importantly, on the Mk6 you had to fork out quite a bit for the uprated fuel pump, whereas the Mk7 doesn't need one. It is a ridiculous amount of performance for your money.
If we're talking anout a standard Golf R, its almost as quick as an lowly FQ320 8Mr from 11years ago.
Out of interest what is the weight on the R?
The fuel consumption is impressive in the R, if the chassis is engaging as reviews would have me believe it looks like a plausible replacement for my Evo in a couple years time.
hondansx said:
Are you joking? What were the service intervals on the Evo, smart arse? How about the fuel economy? Back in your box then...
My Mk6 had around 360bhp/360lbs/ft and would do a 3.6 0-60 dash. Up until you got into three figures it felt no slower than the Turbo S. The DSG maps can also shave a little if you live at Santa Pod.
So your non-standard Golf has could beat a standard Evo from 7 years ago? It's not really VW in that case, it's VW + tuning company.My Mk6 had around 360bhp/360lbs/ft and would do a 3.6 0-60 dash. Up until you got into three figures it felt no slower than the Turbo S. The DSG maps can also shave a little if you live at Santa Pod.
There's really no need to take such offence at a minor quip about a souped up shopping car compared to a rally rep from the 90s/00s; it's not like he's called your mum a slapper. Calm down.
Actus Reus said:
The M135i is generally admired here, despite its looks, but for some reason only a select few here seem to think the Golf can be even nearly as good
I might have to whisper this quietly, but I test drove the M135i and absolutely hated it! Lovely engine and good auto box but the suspension set up as standard was horrid, somehow managing to crash over bumps yet wallowing and floaty at the same time. Hated the looks, hated the interior, couldn't get a comfortable driving position.....massive disappointment. I'd take the Golf R any time. But the A45 felt a lot more special. Yes, it costs more, but Merc finance (for those that don't do PCP deals) and the cost of the Golf's options mean in the real world, they're the same price if you want the two at the same spec. Edited by Ali_T on Friday 13th June 11:51
anonymous said:
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And that's why I prefer to own an Evo, not a Golf! I hate that whole middle class, middle aged snobbery and judgemental, holier than thou attitude. Being a 40 something professional with not a piercing, tattoo or criminal record in sight, but an Evo on the drive upsets their pigeon holing fantastically. The neighbours are all Audi/BMW/Merc/Mini owners so actually having a sense of individuality is big part of the appeal. Edited by Ali_T on Friday 13th June 11:56
Ali_T said:
anonymous said:
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And that's why I own an Evo, not a Golf! I hate that whole middle class, middle aged snobbery and judgemental attitude. Being a 40 something professional with not a piercing, tattoo or criminal record in sight, and an Evo upsets their pigeon holing fantastically. i got feed up of random stops in my scooby
the 4 exhausts do look stupid thou
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