Did This Guy Really Drive On The Track During A Live Race?

Did This Guy Really Drive On The Track During A Live Race?

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egor110

16,925 posts

204 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Vaud said:
egor110 said:
Have brands hatch changed anything post this tt getting on the track?

At the end of the day there's no way anyone not racing should be allowed onto the track.
I think it has been pointed out before that it is hard to 100% secure a track given the need for access vehicles, emergency services, etc, so there are limits?
Didn't he get on by going thru the tunnel, into the pits then down pit lane and onto the track?

You go to bsb/btcc/dtm at brands and you don't get access to the pit lane , you most certainly don't get people driving random cars into the pit area.


Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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egor110 said:
Have brands hatch changed anything post this tt getting on the track?

At the end of the day there's no way anyone not racing should be allowed onto the track.
Yes, as have other tracks.

It is now a full on pain in the arse to get about at some of them, even if like me you have known most of the right people for well over 20+ years. Simple 5 minute jobs now require that you either have to have pit bikes available or take 30 minutes longer than necessary. Most changes have been put in place with good sense but there are still times when the fall out from this knob jockey screws up your day.

Still think he should have been removed from that car feet first...

Roo

11,503 posts

208 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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egor110 said:
Didn't he get on by going thru the tunnel, into the pits then down pit lane and onto the track?

You go to bsb/btcc/dtm at brands and you don't get access to the pit lane , you most certainly don't get people driving random cars into the pit area.
Go to a club event.

You can get pretty much wherever you want.

They trust people not to be bellends.

smithyithy

7,265 posts

119 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Fair sentence IMO, the guy's a tool of large proportions, however I do hope, as he'll be out in 3 months anyway, that he is also banned from driving for at least a few years, and is made to compensate everyone's losses from that day.

While the harsh sentence should send a message and deter copycats, I think those affected on the actual day should get back their losses and the punishment should be relevant to the offense.

egor110

16,925 posts

204 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Roo said:
egor110 said:
Didn't he get on by going thru the tunnel, into the pits then down pit lane and onto the track?

You go to bsb/btcc/dtm at brands and you don't get access to the pit lane , you most certainly don't get people driving random cars into the pit area.
Go to a club event.

You can get pretty much wherever you want.

They trust people not to be bellends.
Fair comment but what possible need could there be for a spectator to take there car into the pit lane?

I understand having a open pit so people can look in the back of the garage and see what goes on but no need to drive to the pits.

Dave Hedgehog

14,587 posts

205 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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smithyithy said:
Fair sentence IMO, the guy's a tool of large proportions, however I do hope, as he'll be out in 3 months anyway, that he is also banned from driving for at least a few years, and is made to compensate everyone's losses from that day.

While the harsh sentence should send a message and deter copycats, I think those affected on the actual day should get back their losses and the punishment should be relevant to the offense.
he got a very light sentence imo for endangering his passengers lives so recklessly


Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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egor110 said:
Roo said:
egor110 said:
Didn't he get on by going thru the tunnel, into the pits then down pit lane and onto the track?

You go to bsb/btcc/dtm at brands and you don't get access to the pit lane , you most certainly don't get people driving random cars into the pit area.
Go to a club event.

You can get pretty much wherever you want.

They trust people not to be bellends.
Fair comment but what possible need could there be for a spectator to take there car into the pit lane?

I understand having a open pit so people can look in the back of the garage and see what goes on but no need to drive to the pits.
You can make something foolproof - but you will never make it idiot proof.



Rather than go lightly on him and give him an asbo, the judge has correctly closed the door on the next face-time retard that decides to go one better take a moped onto an F1 circuit.


anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Dave Hedgehog said:
he got a very light sentence imo for endangering his passengers lives so recklessly
was it really that dangerous? safer than your average tourist day at the ring.

edo

16,699 posts

266 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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fblm said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
he got a very light sentence imo for endangering his passengers lives so recklessly
was it really that dangerous? safer than your average tourist day at the ring.
Exactly. See more dangerous driving on the motorway on average 2 or 3 times a week.

J4CKO

41,691 posts

201 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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fblm said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
he got a very light sentence imo for endangering his passengers lives so recklessly
was it really that dangerous? safer than your average tourist day at the ring.
It could have been fatal, unlikely but possible "Motorsport is Dangerous", chances are that nobody would die, a load of drivers on high alert, the car he was driving at a slower speed would be like encountering another driver with a mechanical problem.

He was not meant to be there, he took it upon himself to drive onto the track during a race and screw it up for all those who had spent a lot of time and money to be there.

Dicks like this who fk with other peoples stuff, be it property, person or pursuits in the name of having a "Larf" need dealing with harshly and I think this is about right, there are so many that do things that hurt, upset or annoy others and then get away with it, they need making an example of, if they don't respect others rights then they need to lose theirs for a little while.




anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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This bellend was completely typical of the 'no regrets' having a 'laff' YOLO 'Dapper' fking stupid haircut Oi Oi! generation, and really needed to be made an example of in my opinion.

The judge obviously thought so too.

He should also be made to pay back every last penny of the £4200 he cost the organisers.

Let's see how fking hilarious he finds that.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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J4CKO said:
He was not meant to be there, he took it upon himself to drive onto the track during a race and screw it up for all those who had spent a lot of time and money to be there.
The guy is a complete fvcking bell end but lets not pretend it was particularly dangerous. His passengers were probably safer on track than they were out on the road with him!

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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EskimoArapaho said:
Munter said:
gregf40 said:
Because all he did was drive a car round a track at a relative low speed?
Tell you what Greg. If you sit in the rear of a Polo doing 10 mph wearing just casual clothes. And we fire a race car (complete with hot engine and full of fuel) into the back of it at 90 mph. You'd be 100% confident you'd see the following day would you?
I think gregf40 must be another of the YOLO brigade. Perhaps he's not too fussed about tomorrow?
I'm afraid I agree with greg. The act of driving onto a racktrack wasn't THAT dangerous. The vid I saw showed him driving like a loon round the track but to the point were it was very obvious what he was doing. Remembering that racing drivers, even on track days let alone a race would have half an eye out for a spun car or an accident. All the talk about spontaneous combustion or kittens dying seems a bit over dramatic. I see it as antisocial behavour of the type disrupting the boat race or some such.

I would however have jailed him for the fact that he took his girfriend against her will onto the track and risked her life and limb without her permission. I would also jail him for beng an antisocial git, of course

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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fblm said:
J4CKO said:
He was not meant to be there, he took it upon himself to drive onto the track during a race and screw it up for all those who had spent a lot of time and money to be there.
The guy is a complete fvcking bell end but lets not pretend it was particularly dangerous. His passengers were probably safer on track than they were out on the road with him!
I'm not suggesting it was massively dangerous, and danger aside, I would have given him 8 months just for the thousands of pounds he cost the organisers and the obvious trauma that he put his girlfriend through.

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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julian64 said:
I would however have jailed him for the fact that he took his girfriend against her will onto the track and risked her life and limb without her permission.
So exactly what he has been jailed for. That Greg doesn't think warranted it. But you defend Greg's position.

That's certainly an interesting take on the subject. But I'm not sure I understand.

lockup

383 posts

243 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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(Edit: Ha ha!)

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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Munter said:
julian64 said:
I would however have jailed him for the fact that he took his girfriend against her will onto the track and risked her life and limb without her permission.
So exactly what he has been jailed for. That Greg doesn't think warranted it. But you defend Greg's position.

That's certainly an interesting take on the subject. But I'm not sure I understand.
errum.

Did he risk the life and limb of the other race drivers - NO
Is he an antisocial git - YES
Should he risk his girlfiends safety without her permission - NO

Jail for two or three but don't get hysterical about point one which was gregs position. I thought that was pretty clear?

callmedave

2,686 posts

146 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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I heard his mums getting him a track day experience for christmas.

Dave Hedgehog

14,587 posts

205 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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callmedave said:
I heard his mums getting him a track day experience for christmas.
2015 tongue out


Clivey

5,113 posts

205 months

Monday 17th November 2014
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julian64 said:
Should he risk his girlfiends safety without her permission - NO
She needn't worry - he'll have a new one soon.