RE: Megane Renaultsport 275 Trophy-R

[EricE]

Kawasicki said:

I need this in my life. What is it?

edit: found it via google image search: Megane Trophy V6 concept from Paris 2008. 995 kg, 360 PS

http://www.autobild.de/bilder/renault-megane-troph...

Edited by EricE on Tuesday 17th June 14:03

[framerateuk]

EricE said:

I need this in my life. What is it?

Megane V6 Trophy - used for the 1 make race series of the same name. Mid enginged V6 goodness. No real relation to the road car other than the basic shape of the shell though.

[The Vambo]

is1 said:

Well done SEAT and Renaultsport, both incredible achievements.
From an accessibility point of view, it would be nice if manufacturers offered something simpler and sweeter lower down the range. Something like a cheap(er) sharp Golf GTI "light" or Clio 200 Trophy (with manual, light wheels, one colour) as a limited run.

Isn't this where you remind us again how a Suzuki Swift Sport is a "real" hot hatch?

[Derek Chevalier]

elementad said:

SarGara said:

AdrianGail said:

http://www.nissan.co.uk/GB/en/vehicles/sports-cars... (£27'015OTR)

You'd need the Nismo to rival the Trophy-R though and thats £37,015 OTR, theres no official 370z time but the 350z was 08:26.

I'm getting tired of posting this now.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/87055/faste...
A more wiggly track than ring but the nismo would favour the long straights of the ring anyway.
What's the point in comparing a 370 time to a 350 time? There are 3 versions. Ones 270 odd bhp, ones 290 odd and ones 313bhp ish.
The 370z is 328bhp with a completely different set up.
There's no real point in putting the meganes new time down as we know the old one from 2006 does it in 'xyz'

I'm tired of posting this now - the car is not suited to track work - it overheats and goes into limp home mode

[elementad]

Derek Chevalier said:

elementad said:

SarGara said:

AdrianGail said:

http://www.nissan.co.uk/GB/en/vehicles/sports-cars... (£27'015OTR)

You'd need the Nismo to rival the Trophy-R though and thats £37,015 OTR, theres no official 370z time but the 350z was 08:26.

I'm getting tired of posting this now.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/87055/faste...
A more wiggly track than ring but the nismo would favour the long straights of the ring anyway.
What's the point in comparing a 370 time to a 350 time? There are 3 versions. Ones 270 odd bhp, ones 290 odd and ones 313bhp ish.
The 370z is 328bhp with a completely different set up.
There's no real point in putting the meganes new time down as we know the old one from 2006 does it in 'xyz'

I'm tired of posting this now - the car is not suited to track work - it overheats and goes into limp home mode

Doesn't do too bad for a car not suited to track work though does it?

[irish boy]

elementad said:

Derek Chevalier said:

elementad said:

SarGara said:

AdrianGail said:

http://www.nissan.co.uk/GB/en/vehicles/sports-cars... (£27'015OTR)

You'd need the Nismo to rival the Trophy-R though and thats £37,015 OTR, theres no official 370z time but the 350z was 08:26.

I'm getting tired of posting this now.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/87055/faste...
A more wiggly track than ring but the nismo would favour the long straights of the ring anyway.
What's the point in comparing a 370 time to a 350 time? There are 3 versions. Ones 270 odd bhp, ones 290 odd and ones 313bhp ish.
The 370z is 328bhp with a completely different set up.
There's no real point in putting the meganes new time down as we know the old one from 2006 does it in 'xyz'

I'm tired of posting this now - the car is not suited to track work - it overheats and goes into limp home mode

Doesn't do too bad for a car not suited to track work though does it?

Totally different cars for different people. I'm very interested in the trophy-r, already enquired about placing a deposit. The r26.r was a very special and unique thing that I very much regretted not buying new. I have as much interest in a 370z as going to the moon. I'm sure it's a good car, a great car maybe, I just have no interest. I'd wager the other 29 buyers will be the same.

[Derek Chevalier]

elementad said:

Derek Chevalier said:

elementad said:

SarGara said:

AdrianGail said:

http://www.nissan.co.uk/GB/en/vehicles/sports-cars... (£27'015OTR)

You'd need the Nismo to rival the Trophy-R though and thats £37,015 OTR, theres no official 370z time but the 350z was 08:26.

I'm getting tired of posting this now.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/87055/faste...
A more wiggly track than ring but the nismo would favour the long straights of the ring anyway.
What's the point in comparing a 370 time to a 350 time? There are 3 versions. Ones 270 odd bhp, ones 290 odd and ones 313bhp ish.
The 370z is 328bhp with a completely different set up.
There's no real point in putting the meganes new time down as we know the old one from 2006 does it in 'xyz'

I'm tired of posting this now - the car is not suited to track work - it overheats and goes into limp home mode

Doesn't do too bad for a car not suited to track work though does it?

Did it make the second lap before breaking down?! All joking aside it was only 1 second slower round Bedford than the Megane Trophy which isn't a bad effort, but I would want a car that I could lap all day without worrying about heat issues - I'm not sure the Nissan would offer that

[elementad]

Derek Chevalier said:

elementad said:

Derek Chevalier said:

elementad said:

SarGara said:

AdrianGail said:

http://www.nissan.co.uk/GB/en/vehicles/sports-cars... (£27'015OTR)

You'd need the Nismo to rival the Trophy-R though and thats £37,015 OTR, theres no official 370z time but the 350z was 08:26.

I'm getting tired of posting this now.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/best-cars/87055/faste...
A more wiggly track than ring but the nismo would favour the long straights of the ring anyway.
What's the point in comparing a 370 time to a 350 time? There are 3 versions. Ones 270 odd bhp, ones 290 odd and ones 313bhp ish.
The 370z is 328bhp with a completely different set up.
There's no real point in putting the meganes new time down as we know the old one from 2006 does it in 'xyz'

I'm tired of posting this now - the car is not suited to track work - it overheats and goes into limp home mode

Doesn't do too bad for a car not suited to track work though does it?

Did it make the second lap before breaking down?! All joking aside it was only 1 second slower round Bedford than the Megane Trophy which isn't a bad effort, but I would want a car that I could lap all day without worrying about heat issues - I'm not sure the Nissan would offer that

I've never had mine go into limp mode on track driving. If I was going to be doing serious tracking more than a few laps at a time I'd invest in an oil cooler. Interestingly one of my pals who comes on a driving weekend every year his e36 m3 runs at the same temperatures in the same circumstances. You don't often get folk mentioning m3s overheating on PH though. Google it.

[Terminator X]

Impressive although a "standard" Impreza was running under 8m about 10 years ago ...

I still lust after the R26.R though

TX.

[robm3]

framerateuk said:

iloveboost said:

I agree that if it's a track car you want then something cheaper, lighter and RWD will do the job better. Some people like me like FWD because it's more forgiving of mistakes but I wouldn't take a new car on a race track even if it was insured I'd buy a battered old Mx-5 or BMW like everybody else does and get coilovers, etc.

I definitely see the point, I loved my Megane on the track. It's a very forgiving car and doesn't feel anywhere near it's weight and size. It's also a very nice place to be on your way home after a long day on a track!

robm3 said:

We hired RSR's Megane R26R a few years back to drive the ring. What a car!!!

I can't rave about it enough. It was so forgiving and fast. My brother, who had never been to the 'ring, set a second lap time of 8.55 verified by the data logger we took along. He's of average ability but that car really flattered.

The next day we went to Spa, this time with RSR's Lotus Exige. In comparison the car was a disapointment. We missed that R26R.

If I was back in the UK I would buy this new 275R straight away. Sadly here in Oz we'll never see it...

I've driven an Exige and thought it was incredible. But it's not a car you can just jump into and drive quickly, where as the Megane is. It's a car you have to learn to drive - but is no doubt more satisfying in the long run. My point was that dedicated track day goers would probably prefer something like an Exige since it allows them more room to grow as a driver.

All that said, if you're driving the ring, you want a forgiving car since the barriers come up a lot quicker than you expect (guess how I know...) - I know a lot of guys who do tracksdays that wouldn't even consider driving the ring for that very reason. I have to say, I haven't been there for a long time, though I used to love my yearly trips.

Looking forward to seeing the price of the ring pack for this. Might even see if I can get the new discs fitted to my 250

Exactly. Despite most of our aspirations (delusions) most are average skill drivers (don't confuse skill in driving a car fast with Road Craft skill by they way). My brother and I do not do many trackdays and we happily admit our shortcomings.
The Exige was tricky to drive, my brother had a huge moment at Eu Rogue that scared our instructor to death. I'd never want to push one at 10/10's at the ring or even 9/10's for that matter.
But the R26R, wow. I had a few mistakes when I went in to corners too hot but off the throttle and braking just pulled it's line in tighter. It was so impressive. I should point out I've been lucky enough to own some pretty nice machinery as well and this little car was better than nearly all I have owned. I enjoyed lapping the Megane more than the CSL I took there.

[Tony33]

vtecyo said:

CraigyMc said:

Am I massively out of touch with car prices now or something? £47k on a Golf seems a little ridiculous when you consider the nearly new / ex demo market at that price includes things like the C63 AMG and the Jaguar XKR..

For a true comparison though you would need to spec a new C63 and start ticking all the option boxes, make sure you are sitting down though...

[Richyboy]

The colour scheme of the white body, black roof with red wheels just suits this body shape perfectly.

[Kaizen]

I drove over to the dealer in my R26.R on Sunday. Discussed and confirmed options, paid £5k deposit on switch card and placed my order with him. Now let's see if I get one. Order book opened officially with Renault yesterday.

[Butter Face]

Nice one! What colour/options have you gone for??

[Ali_T]

Terminator X said:

Impressive although a "standard" Impreza was running under 8m about 10 years ago ...

I still lust after the R26.R though

TX.

Nearly all of Subarus official times have been prototypes though. Certaily, the 2011 car Makinen drove took all the best bits from various JDM models and added extra aero, by Duck Tape in the case of the gurney flap!

[roystinho]

All sold in a day!!!

[Butter Face]

Fantastic news!

I'd expect there's a few dealer staff who got one and a few speculators too. Still, all gone!

[roystinho]

Yeah fantastic, unless the dealer you were talking to didn't bother getting back to you...

[Dblue]

Ha, amazing
I have 2 dealers who had assured me I could have one as of yesterday evening.

The regular Trophy is the one for me though and I think it always would have been the choice

Ironic as the R26R was a real struggle to sell for 2/3 the price and there were only 125 or so of those.

[Butter Face]

The trophy is still available, all of the R models have gone.