Help identifying a strange little car

Help identifying a strange little car

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HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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The front end of that looks very promising.

Bebee

4,679 posts

226 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Front side fin repeaters though

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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951TSE said:
Fiat 1100 Sport Coupe?


http://www.geopromotion.it/auto40/PRODUZIONE%20'40...

Edited by jammy_basturd on Thursday 14th August 15:33


Edited by jammy_basturd on Thursday 14th August 15:34

Bebee

4,679 posts

226 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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very very close but the front end is too high.

Fastdruid

8,647 posts

153 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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And the distance between the A-pillar/doorline and the wheel arch is too long

nicanary

9,796 posts

147 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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There has been very little response from the members of Autopuzzles - they have been given the "blown-up" photo as well as the original to put the size in context. The only suggestion is that it is a coachbuilt one-off Panhard.

The Autopuzzles site crashed on Sunday, and the editors have been working on the backup files. I don't think we can expect any sort of answer from them for some time.

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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I swear the style of that front-end is familiar. It looks like the headlamps are almost sitting a little proud of the grille.

It puts me in mind of something I've seen but can't quite place - possibly with a set of "concentric rectangles" as trim/decoration on the grille ?


JuniorD

8,628 posts

224 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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One of the best so far. Though The nose ahead of the wheel arch isn't long enough

Bebee

4,679 posts

226 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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I've put the Fiat 1100 Sport Coupe over, and matched the rear as best I can.

I think we are close to cracking the case and getting a conviction.



FunkyNige

8,887 posts

276 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Bebee said:
I've put the Fiat 1100 Sport Coupe over, and matched the rear as best I can.

I think we are close to cracking the case and getting a conviction.
There's also the Fiat 1100 Zagato which is another of the 'almost but not quite' cars!



raftom

1,197 posts

262 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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This thread is delightfully frustrating.

trashbat

6,006 posts

154 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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The wheelbase/floorplan (?) of the 1100 is wrong. Too much space between the front wheel and the cabin - I'm sure it can be tweaked but all variants are similar.

The Fiat 850 is closer:



That one's an Abarth Allemano coupé, FWIW, although it's obviously not exactly right.

The other reason I suggest the 850 as a base is it's rear-engined. The most unusual thing to me about the mystery car is it's low, descending bonnet. I don't think there can be a lot of room in there, given its peers of the time. I could be way off.

pavka007

522 posts

130 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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First the location:
Hôtel de France and its restaurant "Le Relais de Ronsard 'in located forty kilometers southeast of Le Mans La Chartre-sur-le-Loir.
Second:
I haven't got a clue regarding the car biggrin

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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trashbat said:
The wheelbase/floorplan (?) of the 1100 is wrong. Too much space between the front wheel and the cabin - I'm sure it can be tweaked but all variants are similar.
I agree! If the wheelbase is wrong, it's unlikely to be the 1100.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Bebee said:
I've put the Fiat 1100 Sport Coupe over, and matched the rear as best I can.

I think we are close to cracking the case and getting a conviction.


The Fiat was already mentioned on page 1. The overall shape is fairly close but draw a line downwards from the bottom of the A pillar and look where it intersects; on the Fiat it's very close to the front of the sill, but on the mystery car it's a good 12-18 inches further back on the Fiat, more than a third of the way down the sill.

I'm genuinely surprised that people seem to miss such significant differences.

Bebee

4,679 posts

226 months

Thursday 14th August 2014
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Mr2Mike said:
Bebee said:
I've put the Fiat 1100 Sport Coupe over, and matched the rear as best I can.

I think we are close to cracking the case and getting a conviction.


The Fiat was already mentioned on page 1. The overall shape is fairly close but draw a line downwards from the bottom of the A pillar and look where it intersects; on the Fiat it's very close to the front of the sill, but on the mystery car it's a good 12-18 inches further back on the Fiat, more than a third of the way down the sill.

I'm genuinely surprised that people seem to miss such significant differences.
Mike, I speak for myself here, I'm not missing the significant differences but then I haven't made that clear as I post possibilities, because it's so obvious, it's just speculation and thought provoking, suggesting one marque to make someone forward another etc.
We should have looked on page 1 to see that the Fiat had already been suggested.

Just frustrating but fun. wink

CooperD

2,870 posts

178 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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I look at this thread daily to see if anyone has cracked it yet and despite all the knowledgeable people on here this car is still unidentified. I'm thinking it may now be a one off coach built car.

nicanary

9,796 posts

147 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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I may have already posted this, but it's on Autopuzzles, and only one suggestion has been proposed. There are no definite leads.

If the members of that forum can't solve it, nobody can. I also reckon it's a one-off, probably homebuilt or made by a small panelbeating outfit - the overall shape is not particularly pleasing, and the workmanship is nowhere near the level of a decent coachbuilder.

NomduJour

19,126 posts

260 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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As said before, my money is on a special built on a Panhard Dyna.

JuniorD

8,628 posts

224 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Did they have Photoshop in the 1950s?