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DonkeyApple said:
Seriously, what has gone wrong over there. Do none of the designers know they are Italian, sitting in Italy, working for one of the finest Italian companies?
An angry, drunk German could pen more elegant and stylish lines for them.
According to what I've heard about AMG's new GT, they already have! An angry, drunk German could pen more elegant and stylish lines for them.
The 458 and F12 have grown on me. I think they're aggressive and rather good-looking cars, but they're still a far cry from what I'd call "beautiful". Both have nice proportions and overall lines (though I prefer the proportions of a classic long nose/short deck, front-engined GT car than a mid-engined car), but are let down in the details, which are overly fussy and contrived. Back in (2008?) when the "California Spyder" came out, I thought the offices at Maranello must've gotten some bad drugs or lost a bet. How could they revive one of the most storied and evocative names from one of their most beautiful cars and put it on that?!
Do they really believe that this:
Deserves to carry the name of this:
??????????????????!!
Yes, I did purposefully choose a picture of the former's least flattering angle. It's my prerogative and my point still stands!
The only current Ferrari I'd actually like to own is the 458 Speciale. Some of the details on that are lovely, like the ducktail spoiler. I also appreciate their tip of the hat to Luigi Chinetti's North American Racing Team (N.A.R.T.) in the form of the blue and white stripes on the red background (the classic N.A.R.T. racing colors). It's also an acknowledgement to how America has historically been (and continues to be), one of their most important and influential markets. I also like the fact the Speciale is, well, special. It's both lighter and significantly more powerful than a "regular" 458. As opposed to a certain company from Sant'Agata that says, "stick a massive carbon fiber wing on it and give it thinner seat cushions to save 3 kilos, since the wing adds 5..."
bobberz said:
DonkeyApple said:
Seriously, what has gone wrong over there. Do none of the designers know they are Italian, sitting in Italy, working for one of the finest Italian companies?
An angry, drunk German could pen more elegant and stylish lines for them.
According to what I've heard about AMG's new GT, they already have! An angry, drunk German could pen more elegant and stylish lines for them.
The 458 and F12 have grown on me. I think they're aggressive and rather good-looking cars, but they're still a far cry from what I'd call "beautiful". Both have nice proportions and overall lines (though I prefer the proportions of a classic long nose/short deck, front-engined GT car than a mid-engined car), but are let down in the details, which are overly fussy and contrived. Back in (2008?) when the "California Spyder" came out, I thought the offices at Maranello must've gotten some bad drugs or lost a bet. How could they revive one of the most storied and evocative names from one of their most beautiful cars and put it on that?!
Do they really believe that this:
Deserves to carry the name of this:
??????????????????!!
Yes, I did purposefully choose a picture of the former's least flattering angle. It's my prerogative and my point still stands!
The only current Ferrari I'd actually like to own is the 458 Speciale. Some of the details on that are lovely, like the ducktail spoiler. I also appreciate their tip of the hat to Luigi Chinetti's North American Racing Team (N.A.R.T.) in the form of the blue and white stripes on the red background (the classic N.A.R.T. racing colors). It's also an acknowledgement to how America has historically been (and continues to be), one of their most important and influential markets. I also like the fact the Speciale is, well, special. It's both lighter and significantly more powerful than a "regular" 458. As opposed to a certain company from Sant'Agata that says, "stick a massive carbon fiber wing on it and give it thinner seat cushions to save 3 kilos, since the wing adds 5..."
There's some nice aspects to that but also some clumsy ones - overall it looks more like a Supra or RX-7 trying to look like a Ferrari - than a Ferrari trying to look like another Ferrari ;0
The TRS is stunning tho - but I got the impression it was a car done to show-off the SP program and not a customer car per-se?
If that's true - making it nicer than the actual customer cars is either shrewd or daft ;0
The TRS is stunning tho - but I got the impression it was a car done to show-off the SP program and not a customer car per-se?
If that's true - making it nicer than the actual customer cars is either shrewd or daft ;0
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