RE: Alpina B12 coupe: Spotted

[Outrun]

j_s14a said:

Price? Circa £40k I reckon.

Double your estimate and you'll be close

[Lost soul]

Tuvra said:

Lost soul said:

So what is the general opinion on the 8 series , 840ci or 850 ?

just looked in classified and there is only 1 850 which is more
desirable - sought after

850's cost a lot more to run by all accounts.

When we have seen the last of the V12's (which I think will be soon) they will climb a lot quicker than the V8's and the running costs will become irrelevant as the cars will be worth so much (IMO).

Any 8 Series to be worth 3-4 times today's value in 5-10 years, again IMO.

That is what I would have thought , its just that I remember when the 840Ci came out it was praised as being so much more of a drivers car over the 850

[leedsutd1]

[quote=fourspoons]How can this be a 51 plate? I thought that imported cars got a plate in keeping with their real age - or a Q plate if not possible. I thought it was illegal to misrepresent a car's age on the plate?[/quote
usually jap cars if you look at shoguns some adverts will say 2001 ,then when you click its a 1994 imported to uk in 2001, there are no longer Q registration cars ,these were usually stolen recovered and the ID missing, when re registered

[MadDog1962]

Very, very nice indeed. However, you'll need deep pockets to run this (unless you're very handy with the spanners).

Remember it's a B12 not a standard 850i.

I recall seeing a very clean low mileage 850i sell for less than US$20,000 at the MECUM auction in Houston in April last year. OK it was an "ordinary" 850i, but I think the complexity and rarity puts a lot of people off even at those low values.

[dandarez]

SrMoreno said:

POA.....

Been known to work (with wallys).

'Hi, I'm enquiring about the car... what sort of price are you looking for?'

'Thank you for your interest. What sort of price were you thinking of paying?'

'Hmm. I dunno, could we talk about £60k?'

'It's yours!!'

[Mubble]

Mmmm. Imagine lifting your car's bonnet to reveal a BMW/Alpina V12. Awesome.

[CampDavid]

Outrun said:

j_s14a said:

Price? Circa £40k I reckon.

Double your estimate and you'll be close

Quite. I'd imagine it's up at £89,995 or there abouts.

[E24man]

It's a 6,500 mile very rare car with a fully documented history and a sympathetic and thorough re-commissioning once it came back to the country. But no 8 series is actually very quick as their sheer bulk counts against them, so you have to be in love with the looks and, especially for this particular car, the Alpina thing.

Will it find a home at £80k? Probably, but once again it will live secluded in a collection with few opportunities for it to be driven on the road, as driving it any amount diminishes the investment price you pay for it. It sadly leaves the legacy of a life unlived in car terms.

[GTRene]

you could also buy a Alpina B12 with 6.0 V12



like this 6.0


http://www.autoscout24.nl/Details.aspx?id=24455389...

or this 6.0

http://www.autoscout24.nl/Details.aspx?id=20788091...

or this 6.0

http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/alpina-b12-6-...

[Amirhussain]

Beautiful.

[TEKNOPUG]

Ropey 840s go for £4-5k, ropey E39 M5's go for £4-5k...............................




How hard can it be?

[Lost soul]

TEKNOPUG said:

Ropey 840s go for £4-5k, ropey E39 M5's go for £4-5k...............................




How hard can it be?

There you go

[timmeh2k]

The words, In a heartbeat, come to mind

[PunterCam]

Tuvra said:

If that's under £30-40k that would be a great investment.

I can see the 8 Series becoming highly desirable as a classic and worth huge amounts of money. Especially the 850CSi's and things like the attached Alpina.

You could buy numerous 850CSi's for £10-15k a few years back, now I can't find any for sale and it seems £10-15k just about buys you a tidy 840 CI

I really doubt these big engined, electrically complicated cars from the 1980s and 90s (and more recent cars too) will ever be worth big money - they're impossible to repair and keep going. The old classics that are worth stupid money these days are generally simple beasts that, in reality, your local garage could probably keep going a a push. If one of these went wrong, where on earth do you start?

Certainly growing on me though. Quite pretty in a way.

[SrMoreno]

PunterCam said:

I really doubt these big engined, electrically complicated cars from the 1980s and 90s (and more recent cars too) will ever be worth big money - they're impossible to repair and keep going.

The Z8, various Porsches and anything with a prancing horse on the front disprove that.

[Tuvra]

SrMoreno said:

PunterCam said:

I really doubt these big engined, electrically complicated cars from the 1980s and 90s (and more recent cars too) will ever be worth big money - they're impossible to repair and keep going.

The Z8, various Porsches and anything with a prancing horse on the front disprove that.

Exactly what I was going to say.....

[m444ttb]

As a bit of a BMW 'fan boi' I've always wanted an 850CSi or the Alpina variant. I think i had a picture of the latter on my wall as a teenager. Interesting to note they came in 6.0L guise as I thought 8-series production had ceased by the time the B12 6.0 E38 7-series appeared. I'd actually give up track days forever to own one a good CSi and foolishly would probably pay silly money (if i had it) to own an Alpina variant when no doubt Aston Martin and Ferrari offerings are superior in most ways.

[CampDavid]

PunterCam said:

I really doubt these big engined, electrically complicated cars from the 1980s and 90s (and more recent cars too) will ever be worth big money - they're impossible to repair and keep going. The old classics that are worth stupid money these days are generally simple beasts that, in reality, your local garage could probably keep going a a push. If one of these went wrong, where on earth do you start?

Certainly growing on me though. Quite pretty in a way.

A nicely worded, sensible sounding post that is immediately proved wrong by the fact that the car in the original post is up for big money already.

Not actually a particularly hard car to work on, most local garages could work on an 8 series V12 but this one is of the age and provenance that a good specialist would be a must.

[Outrun]

Agree with the above. The 8 is actually a pleasure to work on and there is a wealth of information and advice available on dedicated forums. Most of the owners seem to be more knowledgeable than the main dealers and there are usually very cheap and easy fixes for the most common problems.

I'm not a trained mechanic but despite this I have ran a number of 8s in the past without any scare stories and on a relatively sensible budget. There are some great specialists about including 8Tech who posts here. His posts have given me the confidence to work on my own Alpina restoration project.

[fourspoons]

E24man said:

but once again it will live secluded in a collection with few opportunities for it to be driven on the road, as driving it any amount diminishes the investment price you pay for it. It sadly leaves the legacy of a life unlived in car terms.

Agreed. Nothing makes me sadder than a beautiful car that has never been properly used. Like a animal that has lived its whole life in captivity and longs for the wild..
Whenever I meet owners who are over proud about the ridiculous low mileage they have done in their cars I always say 'Its a shame you haven't enjoyed it more'....