Do you use parent and child spaces without children?
Discussion
JonnyVTEC said:
northwest monkey said:
Then you're not doing it right - you can set it up (with Tesco anyway) so they have proper substitutions. My missus has been doing it for years and as a result we probably go near a supermarket once a month if that.
She pays £30 for the year for delivery (Monday - Thursday during the day slots) which seems like a bloody bargain to me considering they pick it, pack it & deliver it.
You probably eat boring crappy food then. I can't imagine anything more dull than food shopping online - i imagine the truth is most people end up 'copy and pasting' orders from one week to the next then go onto rave about how convenient it is after having spaghetti bolognases on Tuesdays for 30 weeks in a row.She pays £30 for the year for delivery (Monday - Thursday during the day slots) which seems like a bloody bargain to me considering they pick it, pack it & deliver it.
I never said we never went food shopping - I said we never went near supermarkets. FYI, there are other places to buy food from other than giant multinationals. We have butchers, bakers and markets nearby for items we want to go and pick, but paying someone 60p to lug around the basics - potatoes, milk, cereal, dog food, cordial, shampoo, washing powder, milk etc. seems a bloody bargain to me.
If it makes you feel better, when you're picking tomorrow nights ready meal from the shelf yourself and probably parking in a disabled bay at the same time because you're "entitled", I'll allow you to feel all superior.
272BHP said:
JonnyVTEC said:
You probably eat boring crappy food then. I can't imagine anything more dull than food shopping online - i imagine the truth is most people end up 'copy and pasting' orders from one week to the next then go onto rave about how convenient it is after having spaghetti bolognases on Tuesdays for 30 weeks in a row.
I guess you just buy ready meals then? if you buy the basic ingredients, meat, veg, etc then you can make from it anything you want. Probably better to buy the meat from specialists though and probably the veg too. The variety of our food has increased with online shopping, not decreased. My wife says she gets lots of ideas from just browsing the sites and as has already been mentioned the sheer convenience is difficult to beat.
northwest monkey said:
Are you aware that Tesco sell other items other than processed pre-packaged food?
I never said we never went food shopping - I said we never went near supermarkets. FYI, there are other places to buy food from other than giant multinationals. We have butchers, bakers and markets nearby for items we want to go and pick, but paying someone 60p to lug around the basics - potatoes, milk, cereal, dog food, cordial, shampoo, washing powder, milk etc. seems a bloody bargain to me.
If it makes you feel better, when you're picking tomorrow nights ready meal from the shelf yourself and probably parking in a disabled bay at the same time because you're "entitled", I'll allow you to feel all superior.
Nah, I read the following comments and see the point you were making as it being core stuff. Not a ready meal in our house, we also use local stuff, occasionally drive to supermarket but often walk to hte local ALDI. Just never really got on with online food shopping once the novelty wears off, might try it again for baseline stuff.I never said we never went food shopping - I said we never went near supermarkets. FYI, there are other places to buy food from other than giant multinationals. We have butchers, bakers and markets nearby for items we want to go and pick, but paying someone 60p to lug around the basics - potatoes, milk, cereal, dog food, cordial, shampoo, washing powder, milk etc. seems a bloody bargain to me.
If it makes you feel better, when you're picking tomorrow nights ready meal from the shelf yourself and probably parking in a disabled bay at the same time because you're "entitled", I'll allow you to feel all superior.
I always try to park in parent and child on the occasion wifey drags me and the 3 snotty diesease ridden kids we have running around the shops with hand grenades and suicide jackets annoying fellow shoppers, im particularly proud when the 8 year old lad drops the C word whilst Im buying Rizla paper & lottery tickets and ... What with having a 20month old and a buggy, its fair game. Entitled, not really. Thats the NHS where I put plenty in to claim 'entitlement' to their services.
In reality im just a normal person.
Toaster said:
blueg33 said:
I get what you are saying, but you missed my point that is about planning policy and land availability.If they lose one bay per row they will almost certainly be in breach of their planning consent.
i'm sure it would be overlooked planning seems to be so relaxed these days but if not make the store smaller (just loose 1/2 am isle) or buy an extra 2.5 metre strip of land ! its not impossibleMaking the store smaller is a commercial decision, but don't forget that many stores were built in the 1980's, cars have got bigger since then, typically you don't demolish part of a store. You will also find that most stores built in the last few years on the edge of town will have bigger spaces, Aldi certainly do.
Land is finite, you can't easily just go and buy a bit more, especially in developed areas.
I have some idea what I am talking about here, I have a land team whose job it is to buy land, some of it we sell to supermarkets
mrf said:
What drives me (32) mad is when I take my disabled wife out (MS and mobility issues that go rapidly from chronic severe non stop pain to suddenly collapsing on the deck without warning) is when I see older people without a blue badge parking in disabled bays and glaring at my wife (though I've taken to being quite confrontational in response....funny how so many suddenly back down when its pointed out they don't have a blue badge, and therefore should park their car elsewhere)
Even had one twit try to claim that they were spaces for "older people"...twit...
I don't get stores though that stick the P&C spaces far closer to the door than the disabled spaces...blue badge holder doesn't always mean wheelchair user...
My grandfather (now passed away) had a blue badge if he saw someone parked without a blue badge and they told him that they dont care, he would park his car accross theirs and go shopping making them wait for him to return. Or he would park up if there was spaces and go to customer services and get the shop to tannoy the owner of the car telling them to move it.Even had one twit try to claim that they were spaces for "older people"...twit...
I don't get stores though that stick the P&C spaces far closer to the door than the disabled spaces...blue badge holder doesn't always mean wheelchair user...
Why are people such selfish tw@ts.
KFC said:
Parked in a parent and child space this afternoon as I was taking my dog to the vet. It was either that or a disabled spot and I figured that was the least worst of the 2 options.
OR do something like real wacky and outthere, and park in a regular mt spot 10 ft further away, poor you!PurpleMoonlight said:
mrf said:
I don't get stores though that stick the P&C spaces far closer to the door than the disabled spaces...blue badge holder doesn't always mean wheelchair user...
Because the parents spend more money in store than the disabled, and that is really all they care about.
There is one thing that bugs me about threads on this topic
Why can people not accept that the land belongs to the supermarket, they are therefore free to tell people where they can and can't park, they are free to make spaces for whoever they want in what ever location they want ITS THEIR PROPERTY. If you don't like it go eleswhere.
Why can people not accept that the land belongs to the supermarket, they are therefore free to tell people where they can and can't park, they are free to make spaces for whoever they want in what ever location they want ITS THEIR PROPERTY. If you don't like it go eleswhere.
blueg33 said:
There is one thing that bugs me about threads on this topic
Why can people not accept that the land belongs to the supermarket, they are therefore free to tell people where they can and can't park, they are free to make spaces for whoever they want in what ever location they want ITS THEIR PROPERTY. If you don't like it go eleswhere.
I think anything posted now has been done to death.Why can people not accept that the land belongs to the supermarket, they are therefore free to tell people where they can and can't park, they are free to make spaces for whoever they want in what ever location they want ITS THEIR PROPERTY. If you don't like it go eleswhere.
You have 3 basic types>
1) Never had kids or had kids in the 60s-70's prior to modern cars and car seats and don't see the need. Same as in 1964 you didn't need to be careful when working with lead paint and asbestos.
2) Have kids and appreciate them.
3)Don't have kids don't worry about them have a life! or wish to spend hours debating that there not needed and supermarkets don't have the right to do want they what on their land. Can only assume if these people see private land they wish to park on do so as they please.
blueg33 said:
There is one thing that bugs me about threads on this topic
Why can people not accept that the land belongs to the supermarket, they are therefore free to tell people where they can and can't park, they are free to make spaces for whoever they want in what ever location they want ITS THEIR PROPERTY. If you don't like it go eleswhere.
Because these businesses are comprehensively failing to recognise just how important some mentally unstable Jaffas are and failing to fall over themselves to honour lonely blokes who have been sent out to buy some milk for mum's cats?Why can people not accept that the land belongs to the supermarket, they are therefore free to tell people where they can and can't park, they are free to make spaces for whoever they want in what ever location they want ITS THEIR PROPERTY. If you don't like it go eleswhere.
blueg33 said:
I doubt it would be overlooked, supermarkets are always under close scrutiny of planners, and planning departments employ enforcement offers to pick up these things. I have has enforcement action over such things as a bin store a meter out of position. Planning is far from relaxed.
Making the store smaller is a commercial decision, but don't forget that many stores were built in the 1980's, cars have got bigger since then, typically you don't demolish part of a store. You will also find that most stores built in the last few years on the edge of town will have bigger spaces, Aldi certainly do.
Land is finite, you can't easily just go and buy a bit more, especially in developed areas.
I have some idea what I am talking about here, I have a land team whose job it is to buy land, some of it we sell to supermarkets
There is one thing that bugs me about threads on this topic
Why can people not accept that the land belongs to the supermarket, they are therefore free to tell people where they can and can't park, they are free to make spaces for whoever they want in what ever location they want ITS THEIR PROPERTY. If you don't like it go eleswhere.
The two statements contradict each other in one you bleat about planners and planning departments in the next you claim its the property of the supermarkets and they can do what they wish !Making the store smaller is a commercial decision, but don't forget that many stores were built in the 1980's, cars have got bigger since then, typically you don't demolish part of a store. You will also find that most stores built in the last few years on the edge of town will have bigger spaces, Aldi certainly do.
Land is finite, you can't easily just go and buy a bit more, especially in developed areas.
I have some idea what I am talking about here, I have a land team whose job it is to buy land, some of it we sell to supermarkets
There is one thing that bugs me about threads on this topic
Why can people not accept that the land belongs to the supermarket, they are therefore free to tell people where they can and can't park, they are free to make spaces for whoever they want in what ever location they want ITS THEIR PROPERTY. If you don't like it go eleswhere.
So which argument do you wish to standby Mr Land purchaser ? because if the latter is true a supermarket can make a parking space as big or small as they desire..........
DonkeyApple said:
Because these businesses are comprehensively failing to recognise just how important some mentally unstable Jaffas are and failing to fall over themselves to honour lonely blokes who have been sent out to buy some milk for mum's cats?
Oi leave my mums cat's out of this 
blueg33 said:
There is one thing that bugs me about threads on this topic
Why can people not accept that the land belongs to the supermarket, they are therefore free to tell people where they can and can't park, they are free to make spaces for whoever they want in what ever location they want ITS THEIR PROPERTY. If you don't like it go eleswhere.
If the parking pays were marked for white people only would you support that too because 'it's their property'?Why can people not accept that the land belongs to the supermarket, they are therefore free to tell people where they can and can't park, they are free to make spaces for whoever they want in what ever location they want ITS THEIR PROPERTY. If you don't like it go eleswhere.
I view p&c spaces similar to the gay b&b legal case. When the property is used for business purposes the property owner or operator should not discriminate against specific sections of society in it's use. Of course those that benefit from the discrimination think it's a wonderful idea, but that does not make the property owners desires fair and reasonable.
What if the supermarket decided to sell certain items to parents with children only, or had a P&C only checkout would the supporters of P&C spaces support that too?
you must live in a very strange world PurpleMoonlight said:
Of course those that benefit from the discrimination think it's a wonderful idea, but that does not make the property owners desires fair and reasonable.
How is it unfair and unreasonable for the property owner to desire that all its customers can equally safely and conveniently get into and out of their cars?Mave said:
How is it unfair and unreasonable for the property owner to desire that all its customers can equally safely and conveniently get into and out of their cars?
It wouldn't be if they did, but they don't.Many other people would benefit from being able to fully open their car doors but they can't because they don't have children with them.
PurpleMoonlight said:
It wouldn't be if they did, but they don't.
Many other people would benefit from being able to fully open their car doors but they can't because they don't have children with them.
Of course you can open a door fully without using a p&c space: get in car, drive it halfway out of the space, get out, open door fully.Many other people would benefit from being able to fully open their car doors but they can't because they don't have children with them.
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