Do you use parent and child spaces without children?
Discussion
DonkeyApple said:
Why not?
because they don't have deep seated issues with delivery drivers, just women.
Let's face reality here, what this is really about is those weirdo blokes who have issues with women. If P&C spaces were market up for father's only they wouldn't have this issue. They also wouldn't have the balls to park there. Some men are just angry at women and seize opportunities where they think they can have a go at them and get away with it.
That's what this is really about.
No it isn't.because they don't have deep seated issues with delivery drivers, just women.
Let's face reality here, what this is really about is those weirdo blokes who have issues with women. If P&C spaces were market up for father's only they wouldn't have this issue. They also wouldn't have the balls to park there. Some men are just angry at women and seize opportunities where they think they can have a go at them and get away with it.
That's what this is really about.
PurpleMoonlight said:
and not just a section of society that the supermarkets dictate for commercial reasons.
Hahaha! Should they also be banned from doing special offers on sanitary towels because men can't benefit? Special offers in shampoo because baldies miss out? 3 for £10 on meat because vegetarians (and followers of some religions) don't benefit?All commercial decisions, all do not provide benefit to some demographics.
xRIEx said:
On occasions I've walked 4 miles to the supermarket because, y'know, my legs work and I'm not a lazy 
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I didn't implyyou were lazy, just the fresh air might improve your thinking..I didn't answer your questions because you're confusing different concepts: Parking where a supermarket deems is reserved for someone else, trespass and theft.
See: Fresh air.
But all this would be resolved if the spaces in question were put (as they are in a local Tesco) down a safe side of the building for kids but not particularly near the front. What happens? - You guessed it - inevitably the parents mostly ignore the parent and child spaces to park nearer the front. All this ultimately boils down to is convenience.
xRIEx said:
Hahaha! Should they also be banned from doing special offers on sanitary towels because men can't benefit? Special offers in shampoo because baldies miss out? 3 for £10 on meat because vegetarians (and followers of some religions) don't benefit?
All commercial decisions, all do not provide benefit to some demographics.
Are they seeking to prohibit men buying tampons? Are they seeking to prohibit bald people buying shampoo? Are they seeking to prohibit vegies buying meat?All commercial decisions, all do not provide benefit to some demographics.
No. But they are seeking to prohibit people without children with them parking in certain spaces.
PurpleMoonlight said:
xRIEx said:
Hahaha! Should they also be banned from doing special offers on sanitary towels because men can't benefit? Special offers in shampoo because baldies miss out? 3 for £10 on meat because vegetarians (and followers of some religions) don't benefit?
All commercial decisions, all do not provide benefit to some demographics.
Are they seeking to prohibit men buying tampons? Are they seeking to prohibit bald people buying shampoo? Are they seeking to prohibit vegies buying meat?All commercial decisions, all do not provide benefit to some demographics.
No. But they are seeking to prohibit people without children with them parking in certain spaces.
hing and moaning because you are not part of that demographic. popeyewhite said:
xRIEx said:
On occasions I've walked 4 miles to the supermarket because, y'know, my legs work and I'm not a lazy .
I didn't implyyou were lazy, just the fresh air might improve your thinking..I didn't answer your questions because you're confusing different concepts: Parking where a supermarket deems is reserved for someone else, trespass and theft.
popeyewhite said:
But all this would be resolved if the spaces in question were put (as they are in a local Tesco) down a safe side of the building for kids but not particularly near the front. What happens? - You guessed it - inevitably the parents mostly ignore the parent and child spaces to park nearer the front. All this ultimately boils down to is convenience.
So you use the p&c spaces round the corner? popeyewhite said:
xRIEx said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
yonex said:
You can't teach a pig to dance 
When all else fails, resort to personal insults I see ....Parent and child parking space supporters on here are remarkably vicious for a section of society that doesn't even have the backing of the law, just some yellow paint on tarmac. Some behave quite like children, actually. Perhaps some kind of segregation is best for them PurpleMoonlight. Maybe their own queues as well... .
the internet said:
applied to someone that has a character flaw or annoying habit they will never change because they simply aren't able to.
I though this was a brilliant fit for PurpleMoonlight as he is absolutely hell bent on proving some kind of legal discrimination for something which at its most basic level is really just about a bit of consideration for some little human beings. Basically we are talking about someone being told what to do and not liking it?The fact that a grown man is using all his intellectual might trying to prove that there is some higher meaning to this and that having to take a few more steps in a sodding car park somehow impinges on his on his daily life, is totally and utterly ridiculous.
Furthermore to try and take offence from the above quote when all you have done throughout this thread PurpleMoonlight is prove beyond any reasonable doubt at all that you are deeply selfish person is so disingenuous and lacking in thought that only someone quite, quite mad would attempt it.
But do have a good day. It's sunny and it'll soon be the weekend
PurpleMoonlight said:
xRIEx said:
There is no prohibition, they are providing an additional resource that only provides benefit to a certain demographic.
Huh?A resource, an additional benefit that is not available (according to the signs on the floor, anyway) to you. It rankles doesn't it, that someone has been given something that you haven't? Serious question, where you deprived of something when you were a child that say, a sibling had? Like a toy? Did you envy what other children had, maybe?
yonex said:
The fact that a grown man is using all his intellectual might trying to prove that there is some higher meaning to this and that having to take a few more steps in a sodding car park somehow impinges on his on his daily life, is totally and utterly ridiculous.
Furthermore to try and take offence from the above quote when all you have done throughout this thread PurpleMoonlight is prove beyond any reasonable doubt at all that you are deeply selfish person is so disingenuous and lacking in thought that only someone quite, quite mad would attempt it.
If you actually bothered to read what I have written rather than continue with your incessant diatribe you would discover that personally I do not actually use the P&C bays during the day.Furthermore to try and take offence from the above quote when all you have done throughout this thread PurpleMoonlight is prove beyond any reasonable doubt at all that you are deeply selfish person is so disingenuous and lacking in thought that only someone quite, quite mad would attempt it.
Troubleatmill said:
Q/ Why are disabled spaces close to the supermarket entrance?
A/ Because mobility is limited - and it makes sense to travel the shortest direction
Q/ Why are Parent and Child places close to the supermarket entrance?
A/ Because parent leaving the supermarket with a fully laden trolley with 1,2 or 3 young kids running around their feet does not have to negotiate row upon row of parked cars, worrying about kids running out onto the road and getting knocked down. ( Ever seen kids run like idiots in the supermarket? )
Q/ Why are the Disabled and P&C bays wider?
A/ Because they may have to get a wheelchair alongside - or a pram - or full width of door opening to get the kids in and out of the child seats.
Q/ Why do PH driving gods feel that they should park in the above bays?
A/ Because they are selfish bell-ends with no consideration with regards to the above.
Think that covers it very well.
The only issue really is disabled bays are enshrined in law were as p&c are not a legal requirement however most supermarkets have them and they are now becoming more common in some multi stories.
A/ Because mobility is limited - and it makes sense to travel the shortest direction
Q/ Why are Parent and Child places close to the supermarket entrance?
A/ Because parent leaving the supermarket with a fully laden trolley with 1,2 or 3 young kids running around their feet does not have to negotiate row upon row of parked cars, worrying about kids running out onto the road and getting knocked down. ( Ever seen kids run like idiots in the supermarket? )
Q/ Why are the Disabled and P&C bays wider?
A/ Because they may have to get a wheelchair alongside - or a pram - or full width of door opening to get the kids in and out of the child seats.
Q/ Why do PH driving gods feel that they should park in the above bays?
A/ Because they are selfish bell-ends with no consideration with regards to the above.
Think that covers it very well.
The only issue really is disabled bays are enshrined in law were as p&c are not a legal requirement however most supermarkets have them and they are now becoming more common in some multi stories.
Edited by Troubleatmill on Friday 27th February 08:55
xRIEx said:
Erm, parent and child spaces? The subject of the topic, it's at the top of the page, in the title.
A resource, an additional benefit that is not available (according to the signs on the floor, anyway) to you.
Yes I know that.A resource, an additional benefit that is not available (according to the signs on the floor, anyway) to you.
Anything that is made available only to one section of society is by definition prohibited for use by the remaining sections of society. Is it not?
PurpleMoonlight said:
xRIEx said:
Erm, parent and child spaces? The subject of the topic, it's at the top of the page, in the title.
A resource, an additional benefit that is not available (according to the signs on the floor, anyway) to you. It rankles doesn't it, that someone has been given something that you haven't? Serious question, where you deprived of something when you were a child that say, a sibling had? Like a toy? Did you envy what other children had, maybe?
Yes I know that.A resource, an additional benefit that is not available (according to the signs on the floor, anyway) to you. It rankles doesn't it, that someone has been given something that you haven't? Serious question, where you deprived of something when you were a child that say, a sibling had? Like a toy? Did you envy what other children had, maybe?
Anything that is made available only to one section of society is by definition prohibited for use by the remaining sections of society. Is it not?
Your attitude almost sounds like that of a rebellious child who is told not to stand on the kitchen floor because it's just been washed, but has to do so merely because they were told not to. The "prohibition" in your mind creates a desire, it's like the forbidden fruit that tastes sweeter.
It's also a "well the law doesn't say I can't" argument. The law doesn't say I can't let a door swing shut in someone else's face, but I still hold it open for someone because I'm polite and considerate, even though my journey from wherever I've come from to wherever I'm going has been delayed by a few seconds in doing so. The law doesn't mention a lot of things that are inconsiderate to others, we tend to be taught those as 'good manners' by our parents.
PurpleMoonlight said:
If you actually bothered to read what I have written rather than continue with your incessant diatribe you would discover that personally I do not actually use the P&C bays during the day.
You should do a post count in this thread, I reckon you'd be up there, no?I have read all of your posts actually, that is why I was able to comment on the monumental amount of energy you are expending fighting a losing battle to justify the choices you make. If by 'diatribe' you are referring to myself and others pointing out why you should be reasonably considered both selfish and lazy then so be it.
xRIEx said:
No. It is not a prohibition because the benefit to you is of using the supermarket; the benefit to you is being able to drive your car to the supermarket. The existence of P&C spaces neither prohibits you from patronising the supermarket, nor driving to the supermarket. You gain no additional benefit from parking in a designated P&C space, so there is no prohibition. You can still park in the multitude of other spaces.
We are not discussing access to the supermarket in general we are discussing utilising a specific parking space.If you are not permitted to use a certain parking space you are prohibited from doing so.
To try and argue anything else is just silly.
Mave said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Anything that is made available only to one section of society is by definition prohibited for use by the remaining sections of society. Is it not?
So is it fair to prohibit small children having safe access to a supermarket?Whether or not you have kids and park in P+C slots is entirely down to social conscience and nothing else. I think most will agree that social conscience is soon forgotten when there's nowhere else to park in the rain other than a fat empty P+C slot. Human nature etc... .
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