Do you use parent and child spaces without children?
Discussion
SteveSteveson said:
9mm said:
Is it even a problem? I can't remember the last time I saw a struggling parent with kids in tow having to negotiate the length of a car park.
Not the length of the car park, but I have seen many parents struggle to get a child in to the car because the spaces are too small, or someone has parked to close. P&C spaces are not about proximity to the doors, but about the extra space to open the doors wide enough to buckle a toddler in or make it easy for a child to open the car door without bashing the person next to them.Edited by SteveSteveson on Monday 27th July 13:42
The parent would have to lock the car with the infant inside, walk the distance to the shop to grab a trolley and then walk back to the car, to remove the now screaming child.
Great in principle?? - ste in practice. (Unless you're a kiddie fiddler).
C.A.R. said:
I've never undesrtood this. In 8 years of driving I've only ever had my car 'dinged' or scratched a handful of times. Surely, it goes hand-in-hand with car ownership? I guess some will be more unlucky than others of course.
A car lives outside, it's a mode of transport. It's made of metal for many reasons, but it is painted purely for aesthetics. Because cars 'live' outside, they will ocassionally get damaged by a rogue bit of debris or indeed a careless person and their car. I think a big part of this self-righteous attitude is that people are far too protective of their little metal box. If you're scared of the (in my experience) low chances that it will get damaged in a car park then simply don't park there. Walk. Get the bus. Leave your precious car in one of those air-bubbles designed for 'genuinely valuable' classic cars.
If I go out with the Mrs on the weekly shop (hateful experience) then I don't feel massively fortunate if we are able to park in the P&C spaces, it's just a lot easier to get a 2 month old out and into a massively oversized travel system and safer for our 2 year old to walk the shorter distance independantly but supervised.
It's inexcusable - you either park there because you have young children or you're quite simply a monumental c*nt.
That's it, in a nutshell.A car lives outside, it's a mode of transport. It's made of metal for many reasons, but it is painted purely for aesthetics. Because cars 'live' outside, they will ocassionally get damaged by a rogue bit of debris or indeed a careless person and their car. I think a big part of this self-righteous attitude is that people are far too protective of their little metal box. If you're scared of the (in my experience) low chances that it will get damaged in a car park then simply don't park there. Walk. Get the bus. Leave your precious car in one of those air-bubbles designed for 'genuinely valuable' classic cars.
If I go out with the Mrs on the weekly shop (hateful experience) then I don't feel massively fortunate if we are able to park in the P&C spaces, it's just a lot easier to get a 2 month old out and into a massively oversized travel system and safer for our 2 year old to walk the shorter distance independantly but supervised.
It's inexcusable - you either park there because you have young children or you're quite simply a monumental c*nt.
People can be so fking thick, it hurts.
Person A complains their car gets knocked in car park, likely by a parent struggling to single-handedly strap a load of kids and shopping bags into a wider-than-average car (even the smaller MPVs are). I've tried it, it's a struggle (to handle the stuff, not knock somebody's car).
so....
Supermarkets begin offering wider spaces to the parents with the wider cars and all the kids and what not. This takes them out of the normal spaces, away from the 1Ms and what not, and over to their own designated spots. It could reduce the ding-to-door rate.
but....
Person A, who thinks the world owes them something because they've chosen not to have kids and fking hate all who do, decides to park in those spaces, so said 1M/C-Class 'Coupe'/generic smallish but PREMIUM car owner can keep their immaculate depreciating asset further from other cars.
so.....
Parent (i.e me), who's witnessed them use the space, and then also witnessed a large chap struggling with a battered old Zafira and four kids in a tighter space because all the P&C ones were full, doing his best not to scratch the fk out of any car nearby, decides to inform Zafira dad that a is in the store. Zafira dad had a hint of about him too, which was confirmed when he drove his trolley into the side of the black German smallish car (the model of which totally eludes me at this moment) on purpose on his way past. Fun and games though!
CorvetteConvert said:
Do not park in P and C unless you are a P with a C. Simples. Stay out of disabled bays too.
What's to understand?
But if your life is a bit crap due to personal failings and you try and hide this by blaming other groups for your shortcomings then parking in places to deliberately upset them seems very logical. What's to understand?
CorvetteConvert said:
Do not park in P and C unless you are a P with a C. Simples. Stay out of disabled bays too.
What's to understand?
Exactly, I'm amazed there even needs to be a discussion about it - if you're not with a child or disabled then just park in a normal space, what's so difficult about that? My car has several dings on it from people opening their car doors without taking care but I don't see that as permission to use a bay that's not been put there for me.What's to understand?
Chlamydia said:
CorvetteConvert said:
Do not park in P and C unless you are a P with a C. Simples. Stay out of disabled bays too.
What's to understand?
Exactly, I'm amazed there even needs to be a discussion about it - if you're not with a child or disabled then just park in a normal space, what's so difficult about that? My car has several dings on it from people opening their car doors without taking care but I don't see that as permission to use a bay that's not been put there for me.What's to understand?
Some people have highlighted themselves as utter s in this thread. Sad really.
RemyMartin said:
Chlamydia said:
CorvetteConvert said:
Do not park in P and C unless you are a P with a C. Simples. Stay out of disabled bays too.
What's to understand?
Exactly, I'm amazed there even needs to be a discussion about it - if you're not with a child or disabled then just park in a normal space, what's so difficult about that? My car has several dings on it from people opening their car doors without taking care but I don't see that as permission to use a bay that's not been put there for me.What's to understand?
Some people have highlighted themselves as utter s in this thread. Sad really.
Hol said:
RemyMartin said:
Chlamydia said:
CorvetteConvert said:
Do not park in P and C unless you are a P with a C. Simples. Stay out of disabled bays too.
What's to understand?
Exactly, I'm amazed there even needs to be a discussion about it - if you're not with a child or disabled then just park in a normal space, what's so difficult about that? My car has several dings on it from people opening their car doors without taking care but I don't see that as permission to use a bay that's not been put there for me.What's to understand?
Some people have highlighted themselves as utter s in this thread. Sad really.
Here in madeira the public car parks are small but all have p&c spaces and pregnant lady spaces, not once have I see these being misused.
No doubt some ph assbags will say it's an outrage having pregnant lady spaces, after all they chose to be pregnant!
mikal83 said:
BlackST said:
At 0130, yes.
At 1530, no.
To save walking an extra ten feet....... really?At 1530, no.
BlackST said:
This my local Tesco. The cars on the left starting at the Peugeout, Focus and Seat are all P&C bays So at 0130 instead of parking where the BMW estate is I park near the door in the far left hand corner.
Are you suggesting that it's just as busy at 01-30, and it's only the p&c spaces that have become vacant?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff