Do you use parent and child spaces without children?

Do you use parent and child spaces without children?

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Simes110

768 posts

151 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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We have a 3 year-old and use them. She can climb in, just, but needs help with seatbelts and positioning.

If I'm out just with my 11 year-old, then we won't use them.

I admit to being infuriated by those who abuse these spaces. If they're selfish and inconsiderate enough to deprive a parent (or indeed a disabled person) who does need them, I question what else they take advantage of.

If anyone has ever seen the film 'Collier & Co', there's a great 'disabled bay' revenge scene in there. Always wanted to do that.biggrin

TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Yes, at 11pm when there's nobody else there and it's raining. When it's busy I would rather be as far away from any other cars as I can manage, particularly those containing mothers and children.

Edited by TurboHatchback on Friday 11th July 11:14

9mm

3,128 posts

210 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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I'm surprised the stereotypical PHer would be seen dead in a supermarket. Doesn't one have a nanny for this sort of chore? I think a new section - 'PH plebs' - might be a useful repository for such threads in future. It could weed out all sorts of rubbish, for example, any cars worth less than £50K, properties under £500K, watches under £3K, home cinema under £10K, anything to do with shopping for essentials and holidays under £10K could all go in there.

panholio

1,079 posts

148 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Massively ish behaviour. Says something about how you were brought up if you abuse these spaces.

Marks you out as a selfish, inconsiderate tt.

Sorry I seem to be in a bad mood today.

Siko

1,987 posts

242 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Most of the people I see using (wrongly) disabled or parent and child spaces would benefit from the exercise of using a space a bit further away wink

BoRED S2upid

19,698 posts

240 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Only when I'm with the child why else would I use one? I am quite capable of walking and I'm quite happy to call people inconsiderate for using them when not with their offspring. You wouldn't use a disabled bay so why use a child one without a child.

P-Jay

10,564 posts

191 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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I used to, but then I saw the lengths some people will go to avoid an extra 30 second walk, saw the ridiculousness of it and now I just park in the first space I see on the way in.

Well, unless I've got the Baby with me, then we park in the P&C spaces, I wouldn't care if they were at the back - but the extra room is a big help getting a baby seat out.

carpetsoiler

1,958 posts

165 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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What about before/after a certain time?

I would say it's reasonable to expect to park in one at 11.30pm without being challenged, as it's highly unlikely most people would bring their offspring out shopping at that time... of course, working with the understanding that it's a 24-hour supermarket.

shirt

22,555 posts

201 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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tenpenceshort said:
gfunk said:
Upto what age child is acceptable to park in these bays?
They're parent and child spaces, so if I take my mum shopping, we should be alright to use them. I'm 36 btw.

Yes, I am only joking.
joking yes, but if i [32] were taking my either parent [66] in a caterham or something equally daft then i would deffo. need the extra space to help them out!

i fail to see why people take young kids shopping anyway. as a single man it looks to me to be way more hassle than it's worth.






dibblecorse

6,875 posts

192 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Urban Sports said:
I got called an inconsiderate tw@t yesterday for parking in what seemingly was the last parent and child space at a supermarket by some bloke in a people carrier who admittedly did have kids with him.

I do have a little boy but he wasn't with me I did however have the child seat in the car which kind of gives me a bit of a ticket to park there. wink

I do use them if I see one as they're not really a right for people with children, bit harsh being called a tw@t though!
Got what you deserved fella ...... do you park in disabled bays too ?

mygoldfishbowl

3,701 posts

143 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Urban Sports said:
I got called an inconsiderate tw@t yesterday for parking in what seemingly was the last parent and child space at a supermarket by some bloke in a people carrier who admittedly did have kids with him.

I do have a little boy but he wasn't with me I did however have the child seat in the car which kind of gives me a bit of a ticket to park there. wink

I do use them if I see one as they're not really a right for people with children, bit harsh being called a tw@t though!
You're a cyclist as well aren't you? Parking in mother & child spaces is typical cyclist mentality. They don't pay road tax & think they own the roads.

Bill

52,747 posts

255 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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shirt said:
i fail to see why people take young kids shopping anyway. as a single man it looks to me to be way more hassle than it's worth.
People get really shirty if you leave young kids at home in their own.

Triumph Man

8,690 posts

168 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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I might use them after about 7.30 pm or so. In my mind children young enough to need the use of those spaces should be in bed by then anyway. Before then? No, I'll park normally and walk.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

151 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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The store has done something to make life a bit easier for parents and kids.
You decided to prevent that from happening.

It's rude.
It's antisocial.
It's mean.

It's not illegal.
It's just ttish behaviour.


Pretty much every parent I've spoken to about this says they don't care about being close to the store.
They just want wide spaces and a safe path to the store.
And, if possible, a nearby trolley corall with trolleys with baby seats.

shandyboy

472 posts

154 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Saw this very thing happen last night at Shipley Asda. I parked at the empty farthest end of the car park (and there was still a white van parked next to me when I came back out), and as I was walking across the car park an oldish guy in a Merc parked up and casually parked in the parent and child space. He was by himself.

I almost got my phone out to take a pic but then realised a) I couldn't be @rsed and b) it didn't really bother me *that* much...

It does show that some people think they are 'above' others and can do as they please, just arrogance mixed with ignorance I suppose.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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So OP's car is ok, but then a parent is forced to park their dent-ridden kiddy-mobile thing next to mine in the main car park? Thanks a bunch OP.

RicksAlfas

13,394 posts

244 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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surveyor said:
For the record I don't use them at all any more - not even with my daughter as she's old enough to climb out of a car (and in fact will ask for someone top open her door if she's concerned about hitting the car next to us).

When she was smaller these spaces were invaluable for getting her in and out of her car seat without damaging my car or anybody else's. Having seen the benefit it's obvious as to who would use them.
It's not just that either. It's better that young (small!) toddlers are not having to cross the lanes of the car park as well. Harassed parent pushing wonky wheeled trolley, plus toddler with hyperactive legs is not a good mix in a busy car park. That's why they are nearest the door.

I can't believe it's such a tricky concept for people to grasp. No, they are not law, they can't be enforced, but it seems a sensible and courteous arrangement to have. As someone mentioned earlier, you don't have to legally offer your seat to a pregnant or old lady, but it says a lot about you if you are able to and don't...

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

182 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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I never park in the parent and child spaces because they are always taken by inconsiderate tts like the OP.

alock

4,227 posts

211 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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Urban Sports said:
I got called an inconsiderate tw@t yesterday for parking in what seemingly was the last parent and child space at a supermarket by some bloke in a people carrier who admittedly did have kids with him.

I do have a little boy but he wasn't with me I did however have the child seat in the car which kind of gives me a bit of a ticket to park there. wink

I do use them if I see one as they're not really a right for people with children, bit harsh being called a tw@t though!
Do you not think a person or company has the right to dictate who and where people can park on their property? Would you object if your neighbours started parking on your drive every day?

Dr Murdoch

3,444 posts

135 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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gfunk said:
Upto what age child is acceptable to park in these bays?
I think the pram/buggy symbol is a clue.

Annoys me when people with kids over 4 use them, if they can get out of the car themselves, walk to the store then you don't need to use them, you're just being selfish (but have justified to yourself its ok 'cos I have kids'...) having got two kids under the age of two I appreciate the extra space they give. Not bothered about getting close to the store, its just about the 'manoeuvring room'.

And you really wouldn't want my missus trying to do this next to your car.