Do you use parent and child spaces without children?
Discussion
Dr Murdoch said:
shirt said:
again, can't see why it needs two people/whole family to go food shopping.
It is hassle, not sure many people do it out of choice.Fricking Ocado ran out of nappies and the missus was out earning a crust.
I couldn't leave WalmJnr#3 at home alone rolling around in his own poop so had to take him with me.
Still parked as far from the shop as possible and not in a P&C spot since others probably need them more than me and I like walking.
I have a mate who if he see's someone without kids parking in these bays (when he is with his kids and needs to park) simply blocks them in - proper knob behavior from him but makes me laugh, and worryingly i don't have a problem with this.
People in kids bays - i think knob and move on there are worse things to worry about.
People in disabled bays with no badge - properly properly properly grind my gears and has gotten me into a lot of trouble by pointing out how much of a dick they are.
Parking in disabled bays is properly wrong, they are there for a reason and should be reserved for people less fortunate than ourselves.
This is a proper problem in the local co-op supermarket especially when it is busy - I really do wish i owned a towing truck sometimes.
Thanks, Matt
People in kids bays - i think knob and move on there are worse things to worry about.
People in disabled bays with no badge - properly properly properly grind my gears and has gotten me into a lot of trouble by pointing out how much of a dick they are.
Parking in disabled bays is properly wrong, they are there for a reason and should be reserved for people less fortunate than ourselves.
This is a proper problem in the local co-op supermarket especially when it is busy - I really do wish i owned a towing truck sometimes.
Thanks, Matt
Not just for young children but also for those with special needs, but unable to claim a blue badge.
Our son is Autistic. The spaces give us room to fix his seatbelt lock and also to fit his harness for going around the store. It also helps to have room so he doesn't get spooked or run over as awareness of danger is lacking. We avoid taking him often, but social situations are something he needs to learn to deal with. Some counties give a blue batch for this sort of need, some (ours) don't.
Our son is Autistic. The spaces give us room to fix his seatbelt lock and also to fit his harness for going around the store. It also helps to have room so he doesn't get spooked or run over as awareness of danger is lacking. We avoid taking him often, but social situations are something he needs to learn to deal with. Some counties give a blue batch for this sort of need, some (ours) don't.
Just reading through these comments, a few questions for debate.
1) People who think they are above others ? Does this not equally apply to parents who think they should get pref. treatment because they chose to breed. or deprive more 'needy' parents just because they still have 'children' with them.
2) Supermarkets rights to restrict on their property. But as this is for financial advantage not genuine parent consideration. Do you think people without livestock A)boycott these places. B)write complaint letters. Do both. C)use anyway.
2a should supermarkets be compelled to make all bays larger thereby giving all parkers enough room (obviously less spaces, but also less arguments).
3) In these arguments why do posters always spout 'would you park in a disabled bay' clearly one is choice other is unchosen.
3a) moral compass would you not park in disabled bay because of permanent 'problems' & park in parent bays because of chosen 'problems'.
4) What would you think of a disabled person parking in parent bay because all disabled bays are in use.
Me personally don't agree with parent bays but wouldn't use because of increased risk of damage, I mostly shop on line to avoid driving around car parks looking for space, & avoiding whistlers (don't know why but cannot stand the bloody windy warbling) also helps to avoid weirdo nutters you find in public places (to para phrase Jimmy Carr if you think there aren't any about - ITS YOU).
1) People who think they are above others ? Does this not equally apply to parents who think they should get pref. treatment because they chose to breed. or deprive more 'needy' parents just because they still have 'children' with them.
2) Supermarkets rights to restrict on their property. But as this is for financial advantage not genuine parent consideration. Do you think people without livestock A)boycott these places. B)write complaint letters. Do both. C)use anyway.
2a should supermarkets be compelled to make all bays larger thereby giving all parkers enough room (obviously less spaces, but also less arguments).
3) In these arguments why do posters always spout 'would you park in a disabled bay' clearly one is choice other is unchosen.
3a) moral compass would you not park in disabled bay because of permanent 'problems' & park in parent bays because of chosen 'problems'.
4) What would you think of a disabled person parking in parent bay because all disabled bays are in use.
Me personally don't agree with parent bays but wouldn't use because of increased risk of damage, I mostly shop on line to avoid driving around car parks looking for space, & avoiding whistlers (don't know why but cannot stand the bloody windy warbling) also helps to avoid weirdo nutters you find in public places (to para phrase Jimmy Carr if you think there aren't any about - ITS YOU).
Edited by DE15 CAT on Friday 11th July 12:54
9mm said:
RicksAlfas said:
surveyor said:
For the record I don't use them at all any more - not even with my daughter as she's old enough to climb out of a car (and in fact will ask for someone top open her door if she's concerned about hitting the car next to us).
When she was smaller these spaces were invaluable for getting her in and out of her car seat without damaging my car or anybody else's. Having seen the benefit it's obvious as to who would use them.
It's not just that either. It's better that young (small!) toddlers are not having to cross the lanes of the car park as well. Harassed parent pushing wonky wheeled trolley, plus toddler with hyperactive legs is not a good mix in a busy car park. That's why they are nearest the door.When she was smaller these spaces were invaluable for getting her in and out of her car seat without damaging my car or anybody else's. Having seen the benefit it's obvious as to who would use them.
I can't believe it's such a tricky concept for people to grasp. No, they are not law, they can't be enforced, but it seems a sensible and courteous arrangement to have. As someone mentioned earlier, you don't have to legally offer your seat to a pregnant or old lady, but it says a lot about you if you are able to and don't...
ts?
RicksAlfas said:
9mm said:
RicksAlfas said:
surveyor said:
For the record I don't use them at all any more - not even with my daughter as she's old enough to climb out of a car (and in fact will ask for someone top open her door if she's concerned about hitting the car next to us).
When she was smaller these spaces were invaluable for getting her in and out of her car seat without damaging my car or anybody else's. Having seen the benefit it's obvious as to who would use them.
It's not just that either. It's better that young (small!) toddlers are not having to cross the lanes of the car park as well. Harassed parent pushing wonky wheeled trolley, plus toddler with hyperactive legs is not a good mix in a busy car park. That's why they are nearest the door.When she was smaller these spaces were invaluable for getting her in and out of her car seat without damaging my car or anybody else's. Having seen the benefit it's obvious as to who would use them.
I can't believe it's such a tricky concept for people to grasp. No, they are not law, they can't be enforced, but it seems a sensible and courteous arrangement to have. As someone mentioned earlier, you don't have to legally offer your seat to a pregnant or old lady, but it says a lot about you if you are able to and don't...
ts?Most British parents with kids have an absurdly overinflated opinion of their own self-importance. Hence, the tw*t overreaction mentioned by the OP.
But if a company (which owns / rents the land) specifically designs a carparking bay for "parent and child" customers, then that is their prerogative, and it is only fair for the bay to be used exclusively by "parent and child" customers (except in rare emergencies). For the OP in this thread who broke this "rule", don't worry, karma will eventually catch up with him / her. What goes around, usually comes around.
But if a company (which owns / rents the land) specifically designs a carparking bay for "parent and child" customers, then that is their prerogative, and it is only fair for the bay to be used exclusively by "parent and child" customers (except in rare emergencies). For the OP in this thread who broke this "rule", don't worry, karma will eventually catch up with him / her. What goes around, usually comes around.
I don't, wouldn't enter into my head to, it is one of those rare things in life where its based on good faith and honour, those are the things the ignorant and selfish love to use to get a small advantage or avoid a small inconvenience, that is why life doesnt have many of them.
I really dont want a dressing down by a harassed, vomit encrusted, pregnant woman with sore boobs and two small kids in tow who just needs to get something for their tea, I took advantage of these spaces when mine were little and now they arent it is not my time to use them, if I am lucky enough to get grandkids one day then I will use them again.
It isn't worth the hassle and feeling a bit sheepish to save walking a few feet, the worst are those blokes who use them without cause and are simply dying for someone to say something, usually in an big SUV, jeans, loafers and a pink shirt round our way.
I really dont want a dressing down by a harassed, vomit encrusted, pregnant woman with sore boobs and two small kids in tow who just needs to get something for their tea, I took advantage of these spaces when mine were little and now they arent it is not my time to use them, if I am lucky enough to get grandkids one day then I will use them again.
It isn't worth the hassle and feeling a bit sheepish to save walking a few feet, the worst are those blokes who use them without cause and are simply dying for someone to say something, usually in an big SUV, jeans, loafers and a pink shirt round our way.
DE15 CAT said:
Just reading through these comments, a few questions for debate.
1) People who think they are above others ? Does this not equally apply to parents who think they should get pref. treatment because they chose to breed. or deprive more 'needy' parents just because they still have 'children' with them.
2) Supermarkets rights to restrict on their property. But as this is for financial advantage not genuine parent consideration. Do you think people without livestock A)boycott these places. B)write complaint letters. Do both. C)use anyway.
3) In these arguments why do posters always spout 'would you park in a disabled bay' clearly one is choice other is unchosen.
3a) moral compass would you not park in disabled bay because of permanent 'problems' & park in parent bays because of chosen 'problems'.
4) What would you think of a disabled person parking in parent bay because all disabled bays are in use.
I am still going to offer my seat on the tube to a pregnant lady.1) People who think they are above others ? Does this not equally apply to parents who think they should get pref. treatment because they chose to breed. or deprive more 'needy' parents just because they still have 'children' with them.
2) Supermarkets rights to restrict on their property. But as this is for financial advantage not genuine parent consideration. Do you think people without livestock A)boycott these places. B)write complaint letters. Do both. C)use anyway.
3) In these arguments why do posters always spout 'would you park in a disabled bay' clearly one is choice other is unchosen.
3a) moral compass would you not park in disabled bay because of permanent 'problems' & park in parent bays because of chosen 'problems'.
4) What would you think of a disabled person parking in parent bay because all disabled bays are in use.
The fact she made a choice to have kids doesn't mean courtesy doesn't apply.
These parking spaces really help when you've got a 2 year old to get out of the car and to get back in the car. Usually they mean that your child doesn't need to walk on the road (not at my supermarket anyway), some of the spaces are undercover too. The wider space makes it much easier to open my door fully to get her into the back seat and buckled up.
I would imagine that it's much better for children / parents with less regard for other parked cars as it stops them dinting them!
I would never park in a child space without my daughter being in my car though.
Having said the above I am pretty miffed at the amount of disabled parking spaces at my new Sainsburys as it seems totally disproportionate to the number of 'normal' spaces and child / parent spaces. Do they give out disabled badges to anyone these days??
I do admit to parking in the electric car space in Mansfield once... there are two of them and ALWAYS empty. I found it funny parking a 6.2 V8 there... not done it since as it was a little childish!
I would imagine that it's much better for children / parents with less regard for other parked cars as it stops them dinting them!
I would never park in a child space without my daughter being in my car though.
Having said the above I am pretty miffed at the amount of disabled parking spaces at my new Sainsburys as it seems totally disproportionate to the number of 'normal' spaces and child / parent spaces. Do they give out disabled badges to anyone these days??
I do admit to parking in the electric car space in Mansfield once... there are two of them and ALWAYS empty. I found it funny parking a 6.2 V8 there... not done it since as it was a little childish!
mygoldfishbowl said:
You're a cyclist as well aren't you? Parking in mother & child spaces is typical cyclist mentality. They don't pay road tax & think they own the roads.
I'm a cyclist and I use P&C spaces. Why is that wrong? Is it because you wrongly think they are for mothers but not fathers? Is it because you wrongly think that no cyclist pays "road tax"? Is it because you wrongly think that "road tax" pays for P&C spaces?shirt said:
again, can't see why it needs two people/whole family to go food shopping.
It doesn't. But if the choice is between waiting until the OH is at home able to look after the kids vs taking the kids to the shops, then taking the kids to the shops wins. I'd rather use the time available to get out on my own to do something fun.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff