RE: S65 AMG joins S Class Coupe range

[P4ROT]

mwstewart said:

What a brute - a beautiful car!

Minor point but I don't like the dash and sat Nav binnacle - shame they couldn't get it curved towards the centre of the car.

It does look rather awkward- a word which doesn't fit badly with the remainder of the package...

[gumsie]

jimbop1 said:

E65Ross said:

jimbop1 said:

FrankUnderwood said:

The day a diesel ends up in a CL will mark the beginning of the end for great cars.

I think it would suit a big diesel.

Presumably you think a big diesel would suit a DB9, Bentley CGT, or perhaps even a Rolls Royce Wraith too?

These top end GT cars deserve a nice big petrol. They've never, ever made a diesel CL. The whole point of a CL is ultimate in smoothness and refinement. A diesel doesn't do it as well as a petrol.

No, just the Merc.

Just because they have never made a diesel CL doesn't mean they shouldn't. Diesel engines have changed.. For instance I'd choose the 4.4 diesel Range Rover over the petrol.

It does. The initials mean Luxury Coupe and I assure you they want it to remain luxurious that’s why they don’t, (and haven’t), in recent years made it in anything lower than a V8. A modern diesel may be a wonder of technology but relative to a multi cylinder petrol and from a luxury point of view, (read NVH), it is absolutely and I repeat absolutely, horrid. I want my luxury coupe to be refined from inside and out.
If you would choose the diesel over the petrol it’s probably because you are being sensible, not because you really value refinement?

[jaf01uk]

Gatsods said:

Could not disagree with you more if I tried vis a vis the interior! Absolutely wonderful cabin IMO, great design and materials. Just like the saloon, which has one of the finest interiors I've ever sat in furnishing it.

But why does it look like they've put a hand grenade in a tin of beige paint and pulled the pin? Wreeks of Farrah slacks and gabbicci tank tops! Do rich people really like beige?

[gumsie]

jaf01uk said:

Gatsods said:

Could not disagree with you more if I tried vis a vis the interior! Absolutely wonderful cabin IMO, great design and materials. Just like the saloon, which has one of the finest interiors I've ever sat in furnishing it.

But why does it look like they've put a hand grenade in a tin of beige paint and pulled the pin? Wreeks of Farrah slacks and gabbicci tank tops! Do rich people really like beige?

I do. I Iike any interior except black. It’s so dark and dingy. Black carpetting, black dashboard & console and black seats - add to that tinted windows - seem to be all you get a choice of these days. Horrible.
Admittedly the Mercedes colour palette is a little sparse right now, a but chestnut brown or maroon red interior would work for me nicely.
I do think that the analog effect digital dash is terrible though.

[zeppelin101]

F1GTRUeno said:

Any Rolls-Royce would do that better.

Not to mention all the supercars that are more expensive...

Most of those supercars hold some reasonable percentage of their original purchase value.

Any of these Merc (and BMW for that matter) super saloons / coupes with an enormous V12 and all the gadgets imaginable depreciate like hell.

You have to have a serious wedge to walk into a dealership and walk out with one of these ordered half an hour later and not give a damn about the fact it's worth 10s of thousands less the second you get your mitts on the keys.

[E65Ross]

gumsie said:

jimbop1 said:

E65Ross said:

jimbop1 said:

FrankUnderwood said:

The day a diesel ends up in a CL will mark the beginning of the end for great cars.

I think it would suit a big diesel.

Presumably you think a big diesel would suit a DB9, Bentley CGT, or perhaps even a Rolls Royce Wraith too?

These top end GT cars deserve a nice big petrol. They've never, ever made a diesel CL. The whole point of a CL is ultimate in smoothness and refinement. A diesel doesn't do it as well as a petrol.

No, just the Merc.

Just because they have never made a diesel CL doesn't mean they shouldn't. Diesel engines have changed.. For instance I'd choose the 4.4 diesel Range Rover over the petrol.

It does. The initials mean Luxury Coupe and I assure you they want it to remain luxurious that’s why they don’t, (and haven’t), in recent years made it in anything lower than a V8. A modern diesel may be a wonder of technology but relative to a multi cylinder petrol and from a luxury point of view, (read NVH), it is absolutely and I repeat absolutely, horrid. I want my luxury coupe to be refined from inside and out.
If you would choose the diesel over the petrol it’s probably because you are being sensible, not because you really value refinement?

This. Other than fuel economy there is no reason to choose a diesel engine over this.

[Phil Dicky]

My current next car is as below


And the new one would make a suitable replacement in 4 years time.
Of course this could all change within 10 minutes of looking through the classifieds

[shalmaneser]

E65Ross said:

gumsie said:

jimbop1 said:

E65Ross said:

jimbop1 said:

FrankUnderwood said:

The day a diesel ends up in a CL will mark the beginning of the end for great cars.

I think it would suit a big diesel.

Presumably you think a big diesel would suit a DB9, Bentley CGT, or perhaps even a Rolls Royce Wraith too?

These top end GT cars deserve a nice big petrol. They've never, ever made a diesel CL. The whole point of a CL is ultimate in smoothness and refinement. A diesel doesn't do it as well as a petrol.

No, just the Merc.

Just because they have never made a diesel CL doesn't mean they shouldn't. Diesel engines have changed.. For instance I'd choose the 4.4 diesel Range Rover over the petrol.

It does. The initials mean Luxury Coupe and I assure you they want it to remain luxurious that’s why they don’t, (and haven’t), in recent years made it in anything lower than a V8. A modern diesel may be a wonder of technology but relative to a multi cylinder petrol and from a luxury point of view, (read NVH), it is absolutely and I repeat absolutely, horrid. I want my luxury coupe to be refined from inside and out.
If you would choose the diesel over the petrol it’s probably because you are being sensible, not because you really value refinement?

This. Other than fuel economy there is no reason to choose a diesel engine over this.

I think these big luxury coupes will transition straight to electric power in the future. Loads of torque on demand and amazing NVH.

That's assuming someone can fix the range problem....

[Lost soul]

Phil Dicky said:

My current next car is as below


And the new one would make a suitable replacement in 4 years time.
Of course this could all change within 10 minutes of looking through the classifieds

Looks lovely in that pic

[k-ink]

The Merc coupes are lovely relaxing places to be. The fact they depreciate at an insane rate is a great thing. It means I get to waft about in a mint used one as my daily for the same price as a korean st box.

[iloveboost]

JD said:

You know when you absolutely, positively, must get to the South of France as quickly as possible because there has been some fresh snow in Chamonix?

This is the car for that.

Ordell Robbie: CL-65. The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to beat every motherf****r in the room to Chamonix, accept no substitutes.
Kudos to anybody who knows what movie this is from.
Also I agree with others about the CL design. I think it has aged well and it's still a handsome car. The rear lights date it the most but that's how they did them back then. I think it's a massive improvement on the 'big box' design of the previous CL and it looks much nicer than the S class it's based on.
Will cost a heck of a lot to run though so it's really a weekends and holidays type of car now.

[FrankUnderwood]

Actually on reflection I think a diesel will appeal to the rich who are looking for the sensation of being in a mini cab.

[kmack]

Whats is wrong with some people - see link; http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Cool / classy & economical - really?

[bobberz]

F1GTRUeno said:

sealtt said:

Nothing says money like ordering a brand new '65.

Any Rolls-Royce would do that better.

Not to mention all the supercars that are more expensive...

Except current Rollers are massive, butt-ugly boxes with a coefficient of drag similar to my house. If I wanted a big box on wheels, I'd get an '80s Volvo.

Re: the supercars, I think the whole point of this car is to be both insanely fast and relatively discreet. I think it's a fantastic looking car (and has restored my faith in M-B's styling department), though I have to agree that the old W215 CL is one of the best looking cars ever made. Not sure I'd buy this new one even if I had the money, but a W215 CL65 AMG is definitely on my dream garage wish list!

[Lost soul]

kmack said:

Whats is wrong with some people - see link; http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Cool / classy & economical - really?

My goodness poor old girl

[E65Ross]

bobberz said:

F1GTRUeno said:

sealtt said:

Nothing says money like ordering a brand new '65.

Any Rolls-Royce would do that better.

Not to mention all the supercars that are more expensive...

Except current Rollers are massive, butt-ugly boxes with a coefficient of drag similar to my house. If I wanted a big box on wheels, I'd get an '80s Volvo.

Absurd comment.

I've been fortunate enough to have been a passenger for a while in a CL63 AMG which was absolutely fantastic. The quality of the switch gear etc was really classy and a step up even from some other very expensive cars I've been in.

I've also sat in a Rolls-Royce Phantom and a Wraith. It blows the CL apart. If you can't understand WHY someone would rather a Phantom or Wraith over something like this you miss the point. I can understand why you wouldn't want a Rolls-Royce over one of these, but to effectively say these are better is daft. At what the Rolls-Royce is supposed to do, it is better in my opinion.

[unpc]

Lost soul said:

kmack said:

Whats is wrong with some people - see link; http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Cool / classy & economical - really?

My goodness poor old girl

Saw this on the road a few weeks back. All kinds of wrong but it made me smile.

[unpc]

gumsie said:

I do. I Iike any interior except black. It’s so dark and dingy. Black carpetting, black dashboard & console and black seats - add to that tinted windows - seem to be all you get a choice of these days. Horrible.
Admittedly the Mercedes colour palette is a little sparse right now, a but chestnut brown or maroon red interior would work for me nicely.
I do think that the analog effect digital dash is terrible though.

I usually like light/non black interiors but this is

[veevee]

LayZ said:

155 limiter would irk on this. Very high speed in extreme comfort is the raison d'etre of this car surely?

Have you ever driven a car at 155mph? Not being able to drive any faster is not something that would 'irk' me, ever. Not having a limiter is only worth as much as pub bragging rights, and arguably, having a CL65 in the first place kind of exempts you from needing them anyway.

[Clevercurves]

soad said:

I wonder what the good people at Brabus could do with this thing.

Love to find out