What's the best value new car out there right now?

[Mr SFJ]

Tuvra said:

I wouldn't say the GT86 is outstanding value, certainly not at £25k or so.

I'd go with an ST3 Focus or ST3 Fiesta. £20k/15k respectively.

If compared to a Cayman or a 370z it's not too bad, but compared to to something like a Fiesta ST or a new Cupra it does look pricey.

[Tuvra]

Mr SFJ said:

If compared to a Cayman or a 370z it's not too bad, but compared to to something like a Fiesta ST or a new Cupra it does look pricey.

As I seem to keep mentioning..... I have one on loan atm.

To me it doesn't feel that special, yes its an incredibly fun car but the interior feels cheap, the power is woeful, it doesn't sound that great despite huge exhausts (and looking the way it does) and it just doesn't feel like a £25k car. Compared to our ST3 Focus it feels cheap and our Z4 makes it feel even worse, that's why I don't think its exceptional value for money.

The GT86, for me feels like a car that should cost under £20k, rather than £25k, more MX5 than Cayman/370z etc.

On the luxury car front, I think the 640D Gran Coupe (with the discounts available) offer incredible value for money in comparison to its rivals....

[thinkofaname]

PitmanJack said:

How? Didn't thin they made those any more. didn't they get replaces by the Auris?

I saw one in Surrey the other day (the English Surrey, not the one in Canada). Must have been Irish. They still sell Corollas there.

[Bill]

crostonian said:

Perhaps I should have just stuck to the BMW and Merc, the engineering that goes into these is on a way higher level than a Mondeo/Insignia.

Really? Have you got any examples? ETA I'm sure you're right about the bigger twin turbo engines, but for a bog standard repmobile?

[carparkno1]

A6 avant with the new ultra 2.0 diesel.

180+bhp, room to flat pack most of iikea and all the mod cons you could want with great mpg.

Currently 8-9k off list price.

If you can get past the badge (or maybe aspire to it!) and the numb steering then this must be right up there for vfm on a new car.

I don't own one and never thought I would but sat in a mates 14 plate and it was absolutely palatial.

[carparkno1]

A6 avant with the new ultra 2.0 diesel.

180+bhp, room to flat pack most of iikea and all the mod cons you could want with great mpg.

Currently 8-9k off list price.

If you can get past the badge (or maybe aspire to it!) and the numb steering then this must be right up there for vfm on a new car.

I don't own one and never thought I would but sat in a mates 14 plate and it was absolutely palatial.

Edited by carparkno1 on Thursday 17th July 16:04

[Otispunkmeyer]

va1o said:

white_goodman said:

That's true but new car prices seem to have rocketed in the last 10 years and are they really that much better? A 10 year old car today still feels quite modern, whereas I agree if you jumped into a 10 year old car in 2004, it would feel noticeably old and probably be missing a lot of modern features.

Yep that's very true and something I notice regularly. I think car design/ innovation is beginning to plateau as the main improvements these days seem to be in co2 and mpg.

I have to agree with this as well. Infact my 1998 Volvo rides better and has similar NVH and interior quality to my 2006 Honda Civic. To say it rides better is a massive understatement as well, its practically a magic carpet and both feature 16 inch wheels with spongy soft sidewall tyres.

Bar some fancy electronic gimmickry and changes in design language, the more basic things are just as good on a 10 year old car as on a new one.

[gleeman]

I don't see how anything could be better than a 2.0 TDCI Mondeo for £14800.

http://www.broker4cars.co.uk/ford/ford-mondeo.htm

[white_goodman]

Are these still available new?



A "proper" 5 door family 4x4 for mid-spec Focus money? The Jimny is even cheaper but less practical and pretty horrid to drive on the road. The Grand Vitara is pretty decent though and fairly well-equipped. I quite like Suzukis though. They have a simple, honest feel. No soft-touch plastics but the basic engineering feels pretty solid. A lot of new cars have a load of extra features that I don't really need or want but Suzuki just seem to have the essentials and nothing frivolous. Dacia Duster may be cheaper but soon gets expensive if you don't want UN spec?

Edited by white_goodman on Thursday 31st July 02:26

[ORD]

gleeman said:

I don't see how anything could be better than a 2.0 TDCI Mondeo for £14800.

http://www.broker4cars.co.uk/ford/ford-mondeo.htm

That's a pretty good shout.

If people actually bought cars outright, almost nobody would stomach the extra cost of an Audi or BMW 2.0 saloon when the Mondeo is this cheap.

[RizzoTheRat]

carparkno1 said:

A6 avant with the new ultra 2.0 diesel.

180+bhp, room to flat pack most of iikea and all the mod cons you could want with great mpg.

Currently 8-9k off list price.

If you can get past the badge (or maybe aspire to it!) and the numb steering then this must be right up there for vfm on a new car.

I don't own one and never thought I would but sat in a mates 14 plate and it was absolutely palatial.

Edited by carparkno1 on Thursday 17th July 16:04

Won't the Skoda Superb be pretty similar for less money?

[RizzoTheRat]

crostonian said:

I always think the £30k execs such as the 520d, A6 2.0TDi, XF 2.2 and E220CDi look value these days - you get excellent engineering, a lot of metal for your money, generous standard equipment and all for only a couple of grand more than a specced up top of the range diesel Golf, A3, 1 Series or A-Class.

What are the residuals like? The big engined petrol versions prices tend to nose dive but are the diesels more popular second hand?

[Boydie88]

V8 Camaro at £35,000. The only new car I'd be tempted by if I had £35k for a car.