Tractors to pullover
Discussion
DonkeyApple said:
Or leave earlier if it really is an issue. Smart people factor in common risks when they travel a stretch of road regularly and if getting caught up could cause timing issues.
Probably best to leave the day before, just in case, and stay overnight somewhere.No that won't work as you might get held up on the way to your overnight stay, so leave a day earlier and book 2 nights.
DonkeyApple said:
Or leave earlier if it really is an issue. Smart people factor in common risks when they travel a stretch of road regularly and if getting caught up could cause timing issues.
This. I regularly end up behind the local school bus on my country road commute and don't bother over taking simply because there is little gain from the few minutes it saves me. So rather than squeezing down the side of the bus and risk hitting a pot hole with the offside, I'm happy to sit behind for a few miles averaging 30 mph instead of 50mph.More often than not the slow vehicle will end up taking a different route within the next 5 miles so I'm unlikely to lose anything more than a few minutes out of my life, so unless there is really wide and very clear stretch of road I don't bother overtaking.
Boydie88 said:
This. I regularly end up behind the local school bus on my country road commute and don't bother over taking simply because there is little gain from the few minutes it saves me. So rather than squeezing down the side of the bus and risk hitting a pot hole with the offside, I'm happy to sit behind for a few miles averaging 30 mph instead of 50mph.
More often than not the slow vehicle will end up taking a different route within the next 5 miles so I'm unlikely to lose anything more than a few minutes out of my life, so unless there is really wide and very clear stretch of road I don't bother overtaking.
The argument is not that you should try to squeeze past into the proverbial pothole but that slower traffic should pull over if a queue builds behind.More often than not the slow vehicle will end up taking a different route within the next 5 miles so I'm unlikely to lose anything more than a few minutes out of my life, so unless there is really wide and very clear stretch of road I don't bother overtaking.
HTH
ShaunTheSheep said:
FWIW i don't read any self importance in the "i'm a consultant surgeon" line, i read that as a contrast being illustrated between a farming conglomerate's bottom line & everyone else.
T'internet. It takes all types. But it takes a pretty special kind of t
t to twist what was said. IMNSHO!
Thanks, I've always thought I was special;)T'internet. It takes all types. But it takes a pretty special kind of t
t to twist what was said. IMNSHO!Don't think there's much point take in taking everything literally on here. I suspect many have their tongues somewhat in cheek and make points in a somewhat exaggerated manner.
I do, however, believe that no-one can claim priority in terms of their right to use a particular stretch of road at a particular time, excepting emergency vehicles in the course of their duty.
Half the problem with overtaking is the sheer size, especially width wise, of tractors these days. In 20 years or so most farms have gone from little old MF135s and Ford 3000s to New Hollands and Deeres the size of the Exxon Valdez. This means that the majority of opportunies to overtake are no longer viable due to insufficient road width to squeeze alongside
Boydie88 said:
saaby93 said:
The argument is not that you should try to squeeze past into the proverbial pothole but that slower traffic should pull over if a queue builds behind.
HTH
But there are plenty saying the slow traffic isn't the problem and instead moaning at those that don't overtake. HTH
Instead of overtaking, 7 of them queue up behind to force the tractor to pull over
ChemicalChaos said:
Half the problem with overtaking is the sheer size, especially width wise, of tractors these days. In 20 years or so most farms have gone from little old MF135s and Ford 3000s to New Hollands and Deeres the size of the Exxon Valdez. This means that the majority of opportunies to overtake are no longer viable due to insufficient road width to squeeze alongside
Similarly, cars have grown in girth too.For me, one of the things I accept about living/working/holidaying in rural Britain is that I'll get delayed by other people also living/working/holidaying in rural Britain. If I couldn't handle that, perhaps rural Britain wouldn't be for me. Yes, it'd be nice if people were a bit more considerate, but that's true everywhere.
I spent a lot of my teenage years in the Lake District. We used to joke that the farmers had a rota for who was due to drive the haywagon along the Lakes roads each day...
saaby93 said:
DonkeyApple said:
Or leave earlier if it really is an issue. Smart people factor in common risks when they travel a stretch of road regularly and if getting caught up could cause timing issues.
Probably best to leave the day before, just in case, and stay overnight somewhere.No that won't work as you might get held up on the way to your overnight stay, so leave a day earlier and book 2 nights.
Ultimately there are only really two reasons why someone gets irate at being held up, firstly they have either not bothered to factor in a time cushion or secondly, they have deep seated anger issues. Bummed by an 'uncle', that sort of thing.
Boydie88 said:
DonkeyApple said:
Or leave earlier if it really is an issue. Smart people factor in common risks when they travel a stretch of road regularly and if getting caught up could cause timing issues.
This. I regularly end up behind the local school bus on my country road commute and don't bother over taking simply because there is little gain from the few minutes it saves me. So rather than squeezing down the side of the bus and risk hitting a pot hole with the offside, I'm happy to sit behind for a few miles averaging 30 mph instead of 50mph.More often than not the slow vehicle will end up taking a different route within the next 5 miles so I'm unlikely to lose anything more than a few minutes out of my life, so unless there is really wide and very clear stretch of road I don't bother overtaking.
The big problem round us are when the gypsies are on the move as there are a couple of fairs each year. They will dawdle at 15mph but again the real problem is that those who don't want to overtake refuse to leave gaps for those that do and that's what causes the tail backs.
V8forweekends said:
....and this is why I don't bother to holiday in The West of England any more - no more being called a Grockle or an Emit, I now go places where I am made welcome as a visitor rather than abused. ETA - I don't dawdle or have a caravan, my only crime was being English in Cornwall.
That was a bit of a random post. Could you point to the area on the doll where you were abused?ChemicalChaos said:
Half the problem with overtaking is the sheer size, especially width wise, of tractors these days. In 20 years or so most farms have gone from little old MF135s and Ford 3000s to New Hollands and Deeres the size of the Exxon Valdez. This means that the majority of opportunies to overtake are no longer viable due to insufficient road width to squeeze alongside
That might be a small part of the problem, but I doubt it's half of it. I followed a train of probably 15 cars following a tractor a couple of days ago, and on a long (1/2 mile) well sighted straight with perfectly adequate width for passing and not one person near the front made a move.IMO the major part of the problem is that people can't or won't overtake, even when easy and safe to do so.
Mr2Mike said:
That might be a small part of the problem, but I doubt it's half of it. I followed a train of probably 15 cars following a tractor a couple of days ago, and on a long (1/2 mile) well sighted straight with perfectly adequate width for passing and not one person near the front made a move.
IMO the major part of the problem is that people can't or won't overtake, even when easy and safe to do so.
Those people have always existed. What has changed is that they block others from working their way to the front and passed. It's one of the times that truly highlights the modern mentality of the Little Britons. IMO the major part of the problem is that people can't or won't overtake, even when easy and safe to do so.
DonkeyApple said:
Ultimately there are only really two reasons why someone gets irate at being held up, firstly they have either not bothered to factor in a time cushion or secondly, they have deep seated anger issues. Bummed by an 'uncle', that sort of thing.
Just to test if anything you say is true, who have you known like that?
saaby93 said:
DonkeyApple said:
Ultimately there are only really two reasons why someone gets irate at being held up, firstly they have either not bothered to factor in a time cushion or secondly, they have deep seated anger issues. Bummed by an 'uncle', that sort of thing.
Just to test if anything you say is true, who have you known like that?I believe those who become enraged based on a belief of being superior suffer from narcissistic transference.
ChemicalChaos said:
Half the problem with overtaking is the sheer size, especially width wise, of tractors these days. In 20 years or so most farms have gone from little old MF135s and Ford 3000s to New Hollands and Deeres the size of the Exxon Valdez. This means that the majority of opportunies to overtake are no longer viable due to insufficient road width to squeeze alongside
20 years ago they were using mainly 40 series Fords on hire from Hawk and Wildes Ha ha
Following on from the opening link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-28328...
It looks like Dyfed Powys have found their own solution
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-28415798
Who's going to overtake now
Following on from the opening link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-28328...
It looks like Dyfed Powys have found their own solution
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-28415798
Who's going to overtake now
Edited by saaby93 on Tuesday 22 July 22:08
Riley Blue said:
I prefer the second picture too, rural Britain has a lot going for it.
As far as tractor's go, I find they pull over far more frequently than drivers of other slow vehicles. It's the slow movers on major routes that need a slap, not tractors going about their business on country lanes.
I followed a tractor for 8 miles, at 35 mph on a road that wasn't quite wide enough to overtake, but was wide enough for other vehicles coming the other way to get past as the tractor slowed and put a set of wheels onto the verge. In the 8 miles, there were 27 places he could have pulled in, and didn't. How you make the tractor driver aware that he could assist a fellow road user, without coming across as impatient, I've no idea, but in Scotland the law seems to be different. One press of your horn, and the lower vehicle pulls in at the next passing place. As far as tractor's go, I find they pull over far more frequently than drivers of other slow vehicles. It's the slow movers on major routes that need a slap, not tractors going about their business on country lanes.
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