RE: BMW M235i Performance: PH Blog
Discussion
cerb4.5lee said:
s m said:
Captainawesome said:
Evo magazine did a feature comparing those exact two cars last month.
Everyone on here will be quick to point out that they stopped getting EVO years back..... 
s m said:
cerb4.5lee said:
s m said:
Captainawesome said:
Evo magazine did a feature comparing those exact two cars last month.
Everyone on here will be quick to point out that they stopped getting EVO years back..... 
Dave Hedgehog said:
my friend has a 135 and drove the 235i before me and said its a totally different animal far less floppy suspension far better glued to the road, i have not driven the 135 so can not confirm this
Surely a softer suspension means more grip, not less, on a road car ?Despite limited front camber, the M135i has humonguous grip to start with on PSS, far more than is needed for a road car so I can't see what even more grip would add to the equation.
M135i/M235i are essentially identical to drive if you can ignore the placebo effect.
nickfrog said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
my friend has a 135 and drove the 235i before me and said its a totally different animal far less floppy suspension far better glued to the road, i have not driven the 135 so can not confirm this
Surely a softer suspension means more grip, not less, on a road car ?Roma101 said:
Same decision here. Answer: get a 275 Trophy with Ohlins?
I won't be able to get one at the same price. The bmw will cost me a month the same as my 265 trophy. However the trophy is based on a few K deposit and over 42 months. The m235i is zero deposit and 18 monthsJust not sure if I'd miss the meg. More special? Rarer? Stands out more? Hmmm
anonymous said:
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i could well believe that for owners / people who like the old M3 the new ones are a step in the wrong directioni have not driven the old car so can not compare them but from what i have read they are very much like the current RS5/RS4 in that the go is all up the top of the rev range and they are flat in day to day driving
for me the 235 and 4 where chalk and cheese to drive, the 4 felt connected to the road but still very comfortable although i did only drive it with everything in Sport+ the blown engine pulls from low down but it does not pick up as fast as some turbo engine cars but it felt very strong in the higher parts of the rev range
to me it makes it a better daily driver and for the first time ever its a BMW that i actually want to own
I've had mine for a month and covered 850 miles. Despite it not being run in there is plenty of power up to 4.5k revs. This car is an absolute beast and just wants to pull. I'm looking forward to when the run in period is over. So far I'm absolutely loving it and very happy with my choice. It covers every basis I needed perfectly in a car.
The problem with older M cars is that they drink more than an Amsterdam pub crawl, meaning they can't be considered by most as a daily driver. This is the problem with the E46 M3 for me; too expensive to run as a DD, not "special" enough as a weekend car.
I could however see myself with an M135i / 235i as a daily and something like a Tuscan as a weekend car in the future...
I could however see myself with an M135i / 235i as a daily and something like a Tuscan as a weekend car in the future...
Captainawesome said:
Evo magazine did a feature comparing those exact two cars last month.
Verdict?
The M3 does a better job of being a new car than the M235i does of being an M car.
Perfect. Having owned an E92 M3, test driven a M235i and decided to buy another E92, its pretty much the same conclusion I reached.Verdict?
The M3 does a better job of being a new car than the M235i does of being an M car.
The interior looks nice, but its not as nice to touch as the old one. Also, the S65 is a massive factor.
Clivey said:
Agreed, if you're thinking of buying new. I was personally thinking ahead to when Mr.Depreciation's already kicked the M235i's residuals into touch. 
Looking at the "old" 135i coupé - they're worth about the same as a low-mileage E46M now.
Discounts are available on new or a pre-reg or wait a year. I bought a 1 year old BMW F31 320d Touring and saved nearly £20k off list. Looking at the "old" 135i coupé - they're worth about the same as a low-mileage E46M now.Now investigating an M135i, an ex demo or pre-reg is circa £ 10k off list before negotiation. I drive 30k+ miles per year so an older car can be quite expensive to run, out of warranty and things like turbos, clutches and suspension components being pretty pricey on top of the basic servicing costs.
Clivey said:
The problem with older M cars is that they drink more than an Amsterdam pub crawl, meaning they can't be considered by most as a daily driver. This is the problem with the E46 M3 for me; too expensive to run as a DD, not "special" enough as a weekend car.
I could however see myself with an M135i / 235i as a daily and something like a Tuscan as a weekend car in the future...
I agree with this and that's what I thought about my old E92 M3 too juicy when the traffic is heavy when used as a daily and not special enough as a weekender so it left it in no mans land...wouldn't have minded a fuel card though as that would have come in handy! I could however see myself with an M135i / 235i as a daily and something like a Tuscan as a weekend car in the future...
Love the idea of a TVR for the weekend and an entertaining car for the daily grind, my next move will be to have a TVR again as my weekender as I do miss having something exciting tucked up in the garage.
Debaser said:
This looks like a great car to have fun in!
What? I really wasnt going to comment but there is just too much moronic stupidity not to.Why would you buy a 40k 4 seat family orientated coupe to "have fun" in? You wouldnt. You would buy a 2 seater of some sort.
This is a fast junior GT to traverse motorways, dual carriageways and long distance A roads.
Its designed to go nowhere near a bloody track or moron chav hooligans.
The stripes ARE the "fun" aspect of the car, its a very Bavarian sense of humour.
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