RE: Aston abandons Lagonda SUV

RE: Aston abandons Lagonda SUV

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Quickmoose

4,486 posts

123 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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BlackLabel said:
cullenster said:
Aston had a chance to build a spectacular Lagonda back in the mid 90s. But owners Ford wouldn't let them. Shame on you Ford.

laugh

Perhaps I'm in the minority but that is anything but 'spectacular' - it looks vile!
hmmm it's not aged well especially... it has to deal with today's 'edge' and 'flame' bks, but back in the day this was seen as a very svelte stylish take on what Lagonda could do...

DonkeyApple

55,139 posts

169 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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delays said:
DonkeyApple said:
In other words they are broke and can't afford to build it. Stupid greedy VC monkeys killing a great brand.
I see it the other way round.

If Lamborghini build their SUV - which I believe they plan to do - then Aston will remain one of the few sports car brands which make solely sports cars (and a sports saloon with the Lagonda reintroduction). Many others have prostituted their brands for volume, except Aston (which perhaps would have liked to do in the past).

So therefore it now operates in its own niche - one can only assume that the strategy is to keep volumes low and maximise profit margin on each unit.
Sadly they need volume to pay their debt. They've had to cobble together an engine deal and are losing market share. Be has taken a well funded company with brilliant products and pissed it all away.

Each year that Aston remains selling a small number of niche GTs only is a year closer to being dumped for a quid and the board walking away having sucked tens and tens of millions out.

You only need to look at their basic accounts to see a truly miserable picture. They have placed themselves where Porsche were before the Cayenne

myhandle

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1,186 posts

174 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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smilo996 said:
Thank god for that though there will be tears in Cheshire and the Premier Club players houses. Someone should tellBentley but won't.

myhandle - great idea, might as well sell AML to Merc and move production to Germany. The employees would be really happy.

Just hope they drop plans to become a coachbuilder too.
Hmmm not really. Given that the AMG deal is happening, like it or not, the range could go like this:

AMG engined V12 DB9 and Vanquish replacements
AMG engined V8 Vantage replacement
V8 and V12 engined Rapide replacement (plus probably a V6 for China)
Lagonda 4x4 built on platform of GL63 AMG

Then the fun stuff:

Limited edition, limited run cars in the mould of One-77 and upcoming Lagonda saloon
One-offs along the lines of the recent Zagato DB9 and DBS

This looks like some kind of plan which should please enthusiasts and employees - as they may well stay in a job if the company becomes a proper success.

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

164 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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cullenster said:
Aston had a chance to build a spectacular Lagonda back in the mid 90s. But owners Ford wouldn't let them. Shame on you Ford.

Are you sure that didn't become the Ford Scorpio?

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Shaw Tarse said:
I love the idea of a luxury 4x4 SUV Aston!
That must be a first - a PHer moving with the times!
smile

PHMatt

608 posts

148 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Thank god for that Aston!

Now, if all the other manufacturers follow suit, may be people will be able to park in an ordinary sized parking space again without having half of it taken up by a Sherman tank with a car badge on it.

Hateful things.

Quickmoose

4,486 posts

123 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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tali1 said:
Shaw Tarse said:
I love the idea of a luxury 4x4 SUV Aston!
That must be a first - a PHer moving with the masses!
smile
efa

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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DoctorX said:
Hope the new saloon looks something like this:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Searc...
The Austin Ambassador lives.

JonnyCRH

7 posts

141 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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This is good news. However, it is a timely reminder that car stylists are not rock gods. They are fallible - capable of creating munters in alarming quantity and variety when they should be in the business of beauty. That said, when you have the vanity and monstrous ego of someone like Bez added into the mix it is hardly surprising that some of the more pliant felt-tip fairies knuckle under - if only to keep their jobs.

zerovira

63 posts

131 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Glad to hear that. Aston has always been my favourite british brand, and I think this is a sensible move. They make bentley look as sold greedy unclassy guys, maintaining the british pose, altogether. Rolls jumped the shark long ago, Aston is the only one keeping with what I understand as british luxury brand tradition, maybe with lately resurrected jaguar (in a different level).

Good for them. Mr. Bond should never stopped driving an Aston, or drinking dry martini.

avhbi

104 posts

188 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Best decision ever. When you have an AMG engine in a stupid pumped up desert stormer it has to be a G class. Otherwise everyone would look at you funny 'Ha! look he has emotion control!'

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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I cant believe they stopped this, it looked amazing and really solidified the aston brand.

This would have brought new people into the brand, such as z list celebs, footballers, rich house wives etc, it could have used this money to make some proper Astons inspired from the 60's not like general reskinned models they churn out at the moment.

RichB

51,509 posts

284 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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zerovira said:
Rolls jumped the shark...
confused will someone translate please?

Dick Dastardly

8,313 posts

263 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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DonkeyApple said:
In other words they are broke and can't afford to build it.
I don't think Aston Martin has ever been anything other than broke. It hasn't stopped some of their other wacky ideas but I'm glad this SUV isn't going ahead.

Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Good they binned it, the original Lagonda was ugly as well. It looked like some kind of Greyhound.

can't remember

1,078 posts

128 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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cullenster said:
Aston had a chance to build a spectacular Lagonda back in the mid 90s. But owners Ford wouldn't let them. Shame on you Ford.

It didn't go into production but the Lagonda Vignale actually got built, well two of them did. It is actually way better looking than the photo.

LOW4LYFE

159 posts

121 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Yea I mean it's not like Porsche sell bucket loads of Cayennes or anything.

rolleyes

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Hopefully (and this seems to be the "plan" going from the article), a tasteful Lagonda-badged saloon will sell by the bucketload in China, negating the "need" for yet another a blinged-up WAG mobile.

Amirhussain

11,487 posts

163 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Clivey said:
Hopefully (and this seems to be the "plan" going from the article), a tasteful Lagonda-badged saloon will sell by the bucketload in China, negating the "need" for yet another a blinged-up WAG mobile.
How well has the Rapide sold? Aston needed this car, look how many Cayenne's Porsche has sold.

DonkeyApple

55,139 posts

169 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Amirhussain said:
Clivey said:
Hopefully (and this seems to be the "plan" going from the article), a tasteful Lagonda-badged saloon will sell by the bucketload in China, negating the "need" for yet another a blinged-up WAG mobile.
How well has the Rapide sold? Aston needed this car, look how many Cayenne's Porsche has sold.
As lovely as the Rapide is, it really serves no real purpose and that is why no one has bought any and they had to shut down the deal with Stayr and bring the small production to the UK.

I'd buy a Rapide but I'm not living in some third world hell hole, married to a bohemoth with two lumps of lard for offspring.

The Rapide was again about cutting corners. They knew they needed a big saloon at least for the key markets that were delivering sales to their competitors but they chose to squeeze something out on the cheap, using an existing platform and funnel the money instead to their pensions.