Mercedes E 220 Cdi.. Under powered?
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scherzkeks said:
Our second car is an '09 C350d. Even with the C, I cannot imagine much less in the power dept. -- in the E, forget it. Cars that can't get out of their own way seem rather pointless if you enjoy driving.
Complete hokum, whilst the 220D is never going to set the world on fire, it is more than adequate for everyday driving.scherzkeks said:
Our second car is an '09 C350d. Even with the C, I cannot imagine much less in the power dept. -- in the E, forget it. Cars that can't get out of their own way seem rather pointless if you enjoy driving.
On the Autobahns in Deutchland maybe, but not relevant to good old blighty.I bought one last year for Dad to run around in for work..... A new E220 CDi Estate. Depending on what you want from a car, it's perfectly adequate.
It sits at a three figure cruising speed across Europe quite happily, even when fully loaded up. It won't ever set the world on fire, but it is very capable.
It sits at a three figure cruising speed across Europe quite happily, even when fully loaded up. It won't ever set the world on fire, but it is very capable.
scherzkeks said:
Our second car is an '09 C350d. Even with the C, I cannot imagine much less in the power dept. -- in the E, forget it. Cars that can't get out of their own way seem rather pointless if you enjoy driving.
What a load of bull.My S40 1.6D with all of 105bhp must be unimaginably slow then!
GreatGranny said:
What a load of bull.
My S40 1.6D with all of 105bhp must be unimaginably slow then!
It is.My S40 1.6D with all of 105bhp must be unimaginably slow then!
But it does depend what you are measuring against - I personally wouldn't own a large car with much less than 250-300bhp.
The OP needs to drive a 220 and judge for themselves.
My wife has an A220 and I think it is a little slow in the A, so in a big E the only feeling of performance is the limited powerband.
I've got a 2014 E220 CDI - had it from new and done 2,000 miles in it so far. It's no rocket ship by any stretch but I find it quick enough for every day use and not really 'under powered' at all. I may get mine chipped or remapped or whatever it's called as I think these can go up to the E250 CDI levels of power quite easily and cheaply.
The only thing I would say is that the engine note is unrefined and it pushing on in the lower gears can be quite noisy. Not so noticeable in the higher gears (it has 7 speed auto). I did 5.5 hours driving in mine on Sat from Dorset to Wales and back and it is a good high speed cruiser.
The only thing I would say is that the engine note is unrefined and it pushing on in the lower gears can be quite noisy. Not so noticeable in the higher gears (it has 7 speed auto). I did 5.5 hours driving in mine on Sat from Dorset to Wales and back and it is a good high speed cruiser.
Ive owned both an E200 CGI petrol estate and E220 CDI diesel estate, very similar BHP and figures on paper, the diesel was lovely, the petrol horrible.
My point? In a big heavy car like an E Class torque is king, the E220 CDI has about 420NM from memory (more than the A220 CDI so not directly comparable) and is a great cruiser or load lugger.
I'd taken it around the UK on holidays and performance was always up for safe multiple car overtakes due to the low down grunt.
I miss mine and would have another in a heartbeat.
My point? In a big heavy car like an E Class torque is king, the E220 CDI has about 420NM from memory (more than the A220 CDI so not directly comparable) and is a great cruiser or load lugger.
I'd taken it around the UK on holidays and performance was always up for safe multiple car overtakes due to the low down grunt.
I miss mine and would have another in a heartbeat.
2013 E220 CDi (so 170 bhp; I think the W221s had 150 with similar weight).
Plenty of torque, no rocket ship but a more than adequate cruiser capable of changing speed noticeably within a few seconds at any speed that won't get you an instant ban.
If you're coming from something like an E63, it will feel slow, but it's a perfectly adequate daily driver.
Plenty of torque, no rocket ship but a more than adequate cruiser capable of changing speed noticeably within a few seconds at any speed that won't get you an instant ban.
If you're coming from something like an E63, it will feel slow, but it's a perfectly adequate daily driver.
Just to add, I had the 2008 W211 series so the model you are looking at OP, its a different engine than the current twin turbo but has very similar bhp around 170, and at that age will be facelift with the reliable 5 speed auto.
Avantgarde with full leather is a nice spec - dark black wood, xenons, heated seats, parktronic etc.
Avantgarde with full leather is a nice spec - dark black wood, xenons, heated seats, parktronic etc.
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