Identify this noise?

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peter hh

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269 posts

214 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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My run around has starting making a noise, so now it sounds like a tractor/diesel engine even though it's petrol.

Sounds to me like it coming from the timing belt but I had that and the water pump changed about 2 months ago.

Any ideas?

http://tinypic.com/r/2nta815/8
Sound^

peter hh

Original Poster:

269 posts

214 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Bump....

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

180 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Is it low on oil?

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

180 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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More information would be useful, make/model/age/mileage etc.

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Hydraulic tappets are f**ked/it has no oil.
Wild guess based on the fact you've given us sweet fa to go on and I can't listen to it right now.

Challo

10,146 posts

155 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Just watched the video and its a Vauxhall Ecotec but more details would be ideal.

When was the last time it had a service?

peter hh

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269 posts

214 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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It's a vauxhall astra 1.6 petrol sxi, high mileage of about 140.000. It's the car I use for getting me to and from work.

The oil warning light hasn't come on.

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

183 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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peter hh said:
It's a vauxhall astra 1.6 petrol sxi, high mileage of about 140.000. It's the car I use for getting me to and from work.

The oil warning light hasn't come on.
That's great, but have you CHECKED the actual oil level?

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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"They all do that sir."

bobbo89

5,216 posts

145 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Does it go away once its warmed up?

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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V88Dicky said:
That's great, but have you CHECKED the actual oil level?
Not just that but the oil condition too, if it's sludgy it might not be lubing the tappets/VVT properly.
Or it could just be because it's Vauxhall hehe

un1corn

2,143 posts

137 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Does this use the same chain setup as the 1.8 Z22se in the vectra?

They have a port that sprays oil onto the camchain and this used to get blocked, meaning the chain would run dry and eventually break.

It could be that?

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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I expect it's related to the cowboy belt change you had done recently, the one that caused a snapped alternator belt.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

169 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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Oil would be my shout too, particularly if the noise is worse when cold.

peter hh

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Monday 21st July 2014
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ManFromDelmonte said:
Is it low on oil?
Looks like this was the problem, I've topped it up and the noise has gone. I'm usually pretty rigorous with checking oil, water etc but have been extremely busy and neglected the run around.Thanks to those of you that replied helpfully.


Couple of question though.

Would it have caused damaged having not much oil?

And why didn't the oil light come on?


scarble said:
I expect it's related to the cowboy belt change you had done recently, the one that caused a snapped alternator belt.
The change could have been better or it could have been the fact the belt was old and worn. But it wasn't a backstreet garage. smile

littleredrooster

5,538 posts

196 months

Monday 21st July 2014
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peter hh said:
And why didn't the oil light come on?...
In the vast majority of cars, the oil light is not a level gauge, it is a warning of imminent disaster as the pressure has dropped below a critical level and the engine is about to lunch itself.

When the light comes on, there is little or no pressure in the main oil gallery, hence no oil going to the moving parts of the engine. At motorway speeds, this could mean about 10-20 seconds before a large bang happens. 5 seconds running at speed will irreparably damage stuff like main- and big-end bearings.

peter hh

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Monday 21st July 2014
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littleredrooster said:
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peter hh said:
And why didn't the oil light come on?...
In the vast majority of cars, the oil light is not a level gauge, it is a warning of imminent disaster as the pressure has dropped below a critical level and the engine is about to lunch itself.

When the light comes on, there is little or no pressure in the main oil gallery, hence no oil going to the moving parts of the engine. At motorway speeds, this could mean about 10-20 seconds before a large bang happens. 5 seconds running at speed will irreparably damage stuff like main- and big-end bearings.
Never knew that. Thanks for the info fellow. thumbup

scarble

5,277 posts

157 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Also known as the "idiot" light tongue out
You just need to figure out where the oil went now.

peter hh said:
The change could have been better or it could have been the fact the belt was old and worn. But it wasn't a backstreet garage. smile
So was it a well known upstanding chain garage or one of those trust worth main dealers? A good garage would have very strongly advised replacing it at the same time, a half decent garage might at least have noticed if it was worn.
But I think bad garages outnumber good garages 10/1 and you don't know until you've tried them frown