Old people going really fast..
Discussion
gaz1234 said:
As I have said before people over 50 should have to take their test agin or at least a test to see if they are capable or dangerous, eg is changing gear causing them to lose concentration, drive too fast, not indicating etc
My 67 year old mum would VTEC the s
t out of your assertion; either that or she would do it much more slowly in the Mini, but still make you seem a bit....arbitrary.HenryJM said:
He didn't say that he was crawling past the people on the inside, but there was a constant stream of them. So staying in the outside lane until there was a decent space on the inside is perfectly normal.
There's a difference between not being able to move over timeously because of the traffic, and "Why should i move over when I'm doing over the speed limit..."If your preferred travelling speed is higher than someone else's then you move into the next lane and pass them. However, someone else's preferred travelling speed might be higher than yours, and if you're already occupying the outside lane then you're preventing them from travelling at their preferred speed.
So the solution is to either: a) build more lanes to allow more people to drive at their preferred speed at all times, or: b) accept that you have to sometimes temporarily speed up (or slow down) from your preferred speed, so that most people can drive at their preferred speed most of the time.
gaz1234 said:
As I have said before people over 50 should have to take their test agin or at least a test to see if they are capable or dangerous, eg is changing gear causing them to lose concentration, drive too fast, not indicating etc
gaz1234 said:
Vanin said:
Mario Andretti won the Indy when he was 53 years old.
Proves my pointCoincidentally I drove from Derbyshire to Suffolk on Tuesday - in my '63 Riley. Most of the cars that held us up were modern cars driven by younger drivers, have they no idea of the congestion they cause? We wanted to go to Frinton today - queues all through Colchester, again modern cars, young drivers (thought we had a nice chat with the driver of a red Mustang in the next lane). Three mile queue into Frinton - stuff that, backtracked and 'sneaked' in via Walton/Naze. O/H had a paddle and we left, took the Colchester bypass, two 'lads' in a Peugeot thought they'd try to keep up - we watched them become a spec in our rearview mirror...
Some drivers just don't know how to pedal it - all we have is 68bhp, drum brakes, leaf springs...
Some drivers just don't know how to pedal it - all we have is 68bhp, drum brakes, leaf springs...
Edited by Riley Blue on Friday 25th July 21:18
I'm 66, track regularly, fast cars all my life,have had a series of BMW M cars and GT3 RS'S, and have a deposit on a 991 RS.
Not sure age matters too much
...back to the Ring and Spa in 2015, will do Watkins Glen and VIR this year, run a rally or two, and do a bunch of offroading in Arizona. At some stage I will buy something senior-sensible ...Lexus or the like, but not soon.
Not sure age matters too much
...back to the Ring and Spa in 2015, will do Watkins Glen and VIR this year, run a rally or two, and do a bunch of offroading in Arizona. At some stage I will buy something senior-sensible ...Lexus or the like, but not soon.TonyRPH said:
gaz1234 said:
As I have said before people over 50 should have to take their test agin or at least a test to see if they are capable or dangerous, eg is changing gear causing them to lose concentration, drive too fast, not indicating etc
gaz1234 said:
Vanin said:
Mario Andretti won the Indy when he was 53 years old.
Proves my pointHe also ought to know ability doesn't deteriorate until a much later age and any incompetence at 50 was also present at 17.
Hasbeen said:
First we were used to 100 MPH cruising most of our lives, & secondly, it gets boring, & hard to stay awake at legal speeds.
This.I'm 50 next year and I reckon every decade of driving (4 of them) has seen a drop in "average top speed" for a given journey. In the 1980s my 130hp (bhp hadn't been invented then) Cavalier spent an inordinately large amount of it's life at VMax for the given road conditions (120 uphill, 140 downhill - both indicated speed).
Every decade saw me in faster cars (much faster cars) and whilst they had higher top speeds and were taken there at some point the opportunities became less and less. More crowded roads, cameras, Nissan drivers, traffic lights, speed humps etc - all conspired to slow the flow.
Phatboy317 said:
HenryJM said:
He didn't say that he was crawling past the people on the inside, but there was a constant stream of them. So staying in the outside lane until there was a decent space on the inside is perfectly normal.
There's a difference between not being able to move over timeously because of the traffic, and "Why should i move over when I'm doing over the speed limit..."If your preferred travelling speed is higher than someone else's then you move into the next lane and pass them. However, someone else's preferred travelling speed might be higher than yours, and if you're already occupying the outside lane then you're preventing them from travelling at their preferred speed.
So the solution is to either: a) build more lanes to allow more people to drive at their preferred speed at all times, or: b) accept that you have to sometimes temporarily speed up (or slow down) from your preferred speed, so that most people can drive at their preferred speed most of the time.
It's really not hard.
aarondbs said:
TonyRPH said:
And I don't think young people should be allowed to drive until they are at least 30.
Brilliant and i agree!! As 45 year old I see far too many younger, skinny, pale and unhealthy looking younguns who I wouldn't trust with my lawn mower never mind in a car...ruff'n'smov said:
gaz1234 said:
As I have said before people over 50 should have to take their test agin or at least a test to see if they are capable or dangerous, eg is changing gear causing them to lose concentration, drive too fast, not indicating etc
Over 50 ??? Utter bks.k off if you think in 4 years I'll become a bad driver you idiot.HenryJM said:
Well the answer is not to get het up about the person in front if they are going faster than the people on the inside. If there are no people in the inside obviously they should move over, but if they are overtaking people you should sit behind until they have done it.
It's really not hard.
I usually don't get het up, but some people really do take the proverbial. I've often seen people in cars take a good two or three miles to get past a line of lorries, and I've even missed my exit once or twice because of that.It's really not hard.
Another 'favourite' is when you're stuck behind some slow-moving traffic on a s/c, and when a short section of d/c comes up, the car in front takes the outside lane and goes crawling past the lorry or whatever it is, and they end up being the only one to get ahead - the rest of you remain stuck behind.
HertsBiker said:
ruff'n'smov said:
gaz1234 said:
As I have said before people over 50 should have to take their test agin or at least a test to see if they are capable or dangerous, eg is changing gear causing them to lose concentration, drive too fast, not indicating etc
Over 50 ??? Utter bks.k off if you think in 4 years I'll become a bad driver you idiot.(Tragically there was a fatality at Silverstone earlier this year. The driver was 26).
Nigel Worc's said:
"WE" (well I'm not quite that old), learnt to drive when speed limits were considered to be advice, rather than the absolute limit one could travel at.
The truth is nobody really cared as long as you didn't hurt anyone.
And ......... most importantly, no had invented scameras, so the fuzz had to put their doughnuts down and catch you.
Agree Nigel, those were the days The truth is nobody really cared as long as you didn't hurt anyone.
And ......... most importantly, no
had invented scameras, so the fuzz had to put their doughnuts down and catch you.
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