Why the hate for different?

Why the hate for different?

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snobetter

1,162 posts

147 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I wouldn't buy a Cruiser, but I like something different on the road, like when I see a mk1 Multipla, always makes me smile.

Bullett

10,889 posts

185 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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The cruiser is nasty to look at and apparently nasty to drive and seems that in this country it is attractive to the sort of bell end who likes to be called Tex but comes from Rotherham and plasters the car in extra chrome and U.S. flags.

The new new beetle looks odd, something wrong about the proportions but can't put my finger on it. Like the first one, VW trying to jump on the retromodern bandwagon and missing. The Mini and 500 got it right.

I quite like the cube and the Kia Soul as quirky little things.

The Figaro, I'm ambivalent about.

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Bill said:
The Beetle was a MkIV Golf, .
No it's not. The one pictured above is based on the mk5 (or possibly mk6 if you actually consider that to be a different platform).

226bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:


A fwd car that is designed purely to look a bit different from the rest of the drab crap on the roads and is utterly hated by PH



A fwd car that is designed purely to look a bit different from the rest of the drab crap on the roads and is utterly hated by PH



A fwd car that is designed purely to look a bit different from the rest of the drab crap on the roads and is utterly hated by PH



A fwd car that is designed purely to look a bit different from the rest of the drab crap on the roads and is utterly hated by PH



So why is there so much hate for cars that are designed purely to be different?
I think the Figaro is maybe the odd one out, the Fiat 500 is missing, the MX5 too....
Is it hatred for something different? I don't think so, there is expensive and different and cheap and different, these are the latter.
The Non PC within us would say they are cars for women and hairdressers.

I don't hate them, I find them interesting, but then I don't share most peoples opinions either so let's talk about 'The majority'.
Why the hate? The one thing (apart from the Figaro) they all have in common is they are all of a retro design, they're not new, they have taken something we once knew as original and bold and recycled it for the masses.
It's attempting to engage with you visually to make massive amounts of money yet has no soul, they are saying "Look at me, I'm cute, buy me"

It's a bit like taking a song which you grew up with and loved, then someone re-hashing it and releasing it.
It's lazy, it's unoriginal and shows no creativity, most will say "The original was better".


Most people who remembered the old will hate the new, those who weren't old enough will think it's great.
They are all cars trying to have a personality, but failing.



  • Actually, thinking about it I may be wrong about the Figaro, didn't Noddy & Big ears drive one?




Edited by 226bhp on Thursday 24th July 10:06

curlie467

7,650 posts

202 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Mercury00 said:
I love the Cube and Figaro. The Beetle just looks like a dog dragging its arse along the floor. I have no words for the PT Cruiser...
Exactly right.

Malachimon

477 posts

126 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I liked the figaro enough to buy one

ChocolateFrog

25,486 posts

174 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Cube is certainly better than the Micra it's based on.

Figaro and Beetle are unoffensive but the Cruiser, no, just no.

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

148 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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i love a differently styled car and kudos to all the manufacturers who try it. (not the beetle though thats just a remake)
the cube is my favourite of those above.

i hope that electric cars, (no longer designed with an engine bay) will give us even more weird looking stuff in the future.

Bill

52,833 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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kambites said:
Bill said:
The Beetle was a MkIV Golf, .
No it's not. The one pictured above is based on the mk5 (or possibly mk6 if you actually consider that to be a different platform).
You'll have to forgive me not realising they'd updated it tongue out

andy-xr

13,204 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I quite like the Cruiser externally, and there's a fair bit of space in them too from the two I've looked at. What really put me off them was the cheap as st interior and layout of the stuf you touch. And it felt nasty. If the interior was of a bit better quality and aesthetics, then I think I probably would have bought one instead of a 307 that I ended up with


BrownBottle

1,373 posts

137 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I see I'm not alone in liking the Cube then!

OP seems to have misjudged that one, PT cruiser is an abomination though and I must admit I wouldn't be seen dead in a Figaro.

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Bill said:
kambites said:
Bill said:
The Beetle was a MkIV Golf, .
No it's not. The one pictured above is based on the mk5 (or possibly mk6 if you actually consider that to be a different platform).
You'll have to forgive me not realising they'd updated it tongue out
smile

I agree that the first generation "new" Beetle was a bit of an abomination (although no more so than the mk1 TT, really) but whilst I haven't driven one, I suspect the second is probably pretty reasonable.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 24th July 12:46

Dalto123

3,198 posts

164 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I quite like the look of the new Beetle and Cube

The Chrysler and Figaro however I just hate. I think they're dreadful looking cars. However, anyone who brought the latter a few years ago when they were really cheap must be quids in judging by the prices I've seen on Autotrader!

McSatan

82 posts

118 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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HTP99

22,587 posts

141 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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The Cube is fantastic and it's a shame that it never really took off over here, I am going to admit that I actually like the current Beetle, it is a far better attempt than the previous one; I'd never want to own one though however I'd happily own a Cube.

LOW4LYFE

159 posts

122 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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People don't know what they want. They complain when all cars "look the same", they complain when they are "too halfords" and they complain when they do look different from the rest of the current crowd. There never has been and never will be a car that everyone likes.

This is why you have designers and marketers. To tell you what you want, because most people are too stupid to decide for themselves.

You could probably add the Juke to that list. It's different, much more interesting looking than other cars in it's segment but I've only ever seen it slated on here.

I'd really love a Mk1 Nissan Cube. They just look brilliant. Ripe for some modifications.

Studio117

4,250 posts

192 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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blprice1

83 posts

144 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Of all of the above, the Cube is the only one I'd own because it's a fairly unique proposition, I 'nothing' the Nissan and VW but positively despise the Chrysler. I find them offensive to look at and the interior is truly repulsive!

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

189 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Another vote for the Cube, leave it alone!

Think of the Fiat Multipla - widely regarded as one of the most f*ck-ugly cars ever to see the light of day, it's saving grace being that it was incredibly practical, safe and actually quite reliable (esp. for a Fiat!). The PT Cruiser is both ugly and pretty hopeless, not overly practical, not overly economical and certainly not built for performance. It's a giant 'meh' made worse by being offensive to look at.

y2blade

56,129 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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DanielSan said:
Martin_Hx said:
I like the cube!
Another vote here for the Cube. Though I do like the earlier version more. I think it's a brilliantly simple but great looking design.
+1 I like the Cube too.