2 stage accelerator pedals

2 stage accelerator pedals

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Urban Sports

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11,321 posts

203 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Currently in Spain driving a brand new Megane Bose diesel and it's got an accelerator pedal that goes down to about 3/4 and then needs a harder shove to get it to the floor, it's not the first car I've driven that does this but I genuinely can't think of a reason for it?

Any ideas?

ETA this car is a manuel.

Edited by Urban Sports on Thursday 24th July 13:08

shogun001

253 posts

166 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Not an automatic by any chance?

ChocolateFrog

25,237 posts

173 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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To try and encourage you to drive more economically I think.

I had a Nissan Note hire car last week that did the same.

Not a fan

mhj

19 posts

120 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Don't know if it's a Renault thing, but the Trafic is the same.

Urban Sports

Original Poster:

11,321 posts

203 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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shogun001 said:
Not an automatic by any chance?
Manuel

kambites

67,554 posts

221 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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ChocolateFrog said:
To try and encourage you to drive more economically I think.
This would be my guess. Most cars have a step at a certain point in the throttle pedal travel where the fuel/air ratio goes open circuit and fuel consumption goes through the roof. I'd guess the step is at that point?

shandyboy

472 posts

154 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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If it's an automatic that would explain it. Mine has a 'click' at full depress which activates kick-down or launch-control...

[edit] It's a manuel is it... sure it's not fawlty? smile

Jurgen

228 posts

155 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Can you set an electronic speed limiter? If so than it won't go past that speed unless you push the pedal all the way.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Urban Sports said:
Manuel

Matt UK

17,696 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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ChocolateFrog said:
To try and encourage you to drive more economically I think.

I had a Nissan Note hire car last week that did the same.

Not a fan
yes

99t

1,004 posts

209 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Reminds me of my first car, an Opel Manta with a twin choke Webber carb. smile

The first half of the throttle travel opened the first throttle plate / butterfly, then a bit more pressure needed to open the second one against its springs when I wanted to really unleash the beast! (68hp at the rear wheels...)

Urban Sports

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203 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Rawwr said:
Urban Sports said:
Manuel
Si si

shogun001

253 posts

166 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Urban Sports said:
Manuel
clap

The real question is, does pushing it down further make any difference to performance?

Pixelpeep7r

8,600 posts

142 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Rawwr said:
Urban Sports said:
Manuel
Genuine lol at that wink

Urban Sports

Original Poster:

11,321 posts

203 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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shogun001 said:
Urban Sports said:
Manuel
clap

The real question is, does pushing it down further make any difference to performance?
Yes it does, not that I'd really call it performance.

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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99t said:
Reminds me of my first car, an Opel Manta with a twin choke Webber carb. smile

The first half of the throttle travel opened the first throttle plate / butterfly, then a bit more pressure needed to open the second one against its springs when I wanted to really unleash the beast! (68hp at the rear wheels...)
I've had a few cars like that, never bothered me once I was used to it.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

218 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Jurgen said:
Can you set an electronic speed limiter? If so than it won't go past that speed unless you push the pedal all the way.
Yep, this is what it does in my Megane. Fine if you use the speed limiter but a bit annoying otherwise.

ETA A Dacia Sandero also has one of those two stage throttles, and with the 0.9 turbo engine if driving in Eco mode (which reduces power) going beyond the first stage/stop releases all 90-odd ponies and catapults you down the road biggrin (Or not. Whatever)

Edited by MarkRSi on Thursday 24th July 13:38

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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kambites said:
ChocolateFrog said:
To try and encourage you to drive more economically I think.
This would be my guess. Most cars have a step at a certain point in the throttle pedal travel where the fuel/air ratio goes open circuit and fuel consumption goes through the roof. I'd guess the step is at that point?
Sounds ghastly.

HarryFlatters

4,203 posts

212 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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A few years ago I hired a Citroen C3 (hateful thing) to drive from Nice to Avignon, and it had the click at the bottom of the accelerator pedal travel. It didn't seem to make the car go any faster, but the air conditioning stopped working. I presume it was one of those Star Trek "all power to the engines" moments hehe

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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CrutyRammers said:
kambites said:
ChocolateFrog said:
To try and encourage you to drive more economically I think.
This would be my guess. Most cars have a step at a certain point in the throttle pedal travel where the fuel/air ratio goes open circuit and fuel consumption goes through the roof. I'd guess the step is at that point?
Sounds ghastly.
MOST cars?

I'm fortunate enough to drive a lot of cars with work, and can't remember noticing a step on any throttle.