M25 - 84 miles of queues

[RenesisEvo]

Thinking of using the M25 today? Forget it...

BBC travel news currently shows 35 miles of tailbacks clockwise in Surrey, 30 miles in Hertfordshire, 9 and 10 miles each direction at the Dartford Crossing. That's 84 miles of queuing cars, I find that astonishing. Think of all the fuel, all the emissions, the bored/screaming kids in the heat - the annual summer holiday getaway off to a fine start.

For anyone caught in that, you have my sympathy.

[Daniel1]

I joined the m25 at j15 (m4) at 1pm and it was already broken.

[Muzzer79]

It used to be bad on the M25 at rush hour. During the day, you could actually move.

Now it seems like the entire western half at least, from M1 to M23, is permanently stationary both ways...

[DonkeyApple]

Muzzer79 said:

It used to be bad on the M25 at rush hour. During the day, you could actually move.

Now it seems like the entire western half at least, from M1 to M23, is permanently stationary both ways...

It's phenomenal the rapid growth of car numbers in the South East in the last decade.

Central London has become awful on a near continuous basis but I had put this down to the more recent influx of newbies coming from parts of the world where you drive a car to get from your front door to your driveway. The M25 and North Circular are busy throughout the day.

The only logical solution is to steadily increase tax on fuel to price enough people off the road!!!

[retrorider]

Or build some more roads perhaps ? Just a thought...

[DJRC]

Ciao Home Counties people!

This message was brought to you by an insufferably smug bd sat next to the pool in Italy after driving 5mins back from work

Its about 25degrees currently

[oilslick]

So glad I found a job that means I don't have to use it for the daily commute any more. The pay cut was well worth it!

[Dr Jekyll]

DonkeyApple said:

The only logical solution is to steadily increase tax on fuel to price enough people off the road!!!

Why not just stop using the roads voluntarily instead of waiting for tax increases?

Or is it that you want me taken off the road but to continue to use the roads yourself?

[DJRC]

Dr Jekyll said:

Why not just stop using the roads voluntarily instead of waiting for tax increases?

Or is it that you want me taken off the road but to continue to use the roads yourself?

Yep. Next!

[willmagrath]

The M25 has got worse and worse for years, its now almost useless at rush hour

[Dr Jekyll]

DJRC said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Why not just stop using the roads voluntarily instead of waiting for tax increases?

Or is it that you want me taken off the road but to continue to use the roads yourself?

Yep. Next!

Is there any possible excuse for this level of arrogance?.

[DJRC]

Dr Jekyll said:

Is there any possible excuse for this level of arrogance?.

Because he can. End of.
Im by the pool in Italy so I dont give a monkeys either way

[Highway Star]

retrorider said:

Or build some more roads perhaps ? Just a thought...

Ever tried to get a new road built? Good luck with that!

[retrorider]

Highway Star said:

retrorider said:

Or build some more roads perhaps ? Just a thought...

Ever tried to get a new road built? Good luck with that!

We seem to have enough money to throw at the train network.Good job us Brits do mind queing.

19 miles of the congestion could be easily sorted getting rid of the Dartford toll,and come to think of it the misery of the M6/M6 toll around Birmingham too.Its as ever all about revenue,so wishful thinking...

Edited by retrorider on Friday 25th July 18:20

[wiliferus]

oilslick said:

So glad I found a job that means I don't have to use it for the daily commute any more. The pay cut was well worth it!

+1, but no pay cut
My previous 70 mile M4 round trip is now 6 miles each way down a country B road. Living the dream.

[Daniel1]

retrorider said:

Highway Star said:

retrorider said:

Or build some more roads perhaps ? Just a thought...

Ever tried to get a new road built? Good luck with that!

We seem to have enough money to throw at the train network.Good job us Brits do mind queing.

19 miles of the congestion could be easily sorted getting rid of the Dartford toll,and come to think of it the misery of the M6/M6 toll around Birmingham too.Its as ever all about revenue,so wishful thinking...

Edited by retrorider on Friday 25th July 18:20

And a redesign of the m3 junction, or a redesign of cob ham services that for some reason causes everyone to stop just before junction 10 going clockwise, ditto for junction 9 going anti clockwise. And the constant traffic at the junction 6 turnoff.

And quit it with the constant random variable speed limits - 60, 50, 40, NSL for no 'apparent' reason.

[eldar]

DJRC said:

Ciao Home Counties people!

This message was brought to you by an insufferably smug bd sat next to the pool in Italy after driving 5mins back from work

Its about 25degrees currently

Let me outsmug you. Here in Cumbria it is 28c, and severe traffic congestion is a tractor, a lost tourist dragging a shed and 4 bicycles on a variety of racks an a pensioner looking for sheep. Took 6 minutes to get home, but I wasted 22 secs putting the roof down

[wolves_wanderer]

Unlucky

[iva cosworth]

It's schools out weekend so that might explain the particularly bad queues tonight.

Might stay indoors all weekend.

[OwenK]

DJRC said:

Ciao Home Counties people!
This message was brought to you by an insufferably smug bd sat next to the pool in Italy after driving 5mins back from work
Its about 25degrees currently

DJRC said:

Because he can. End of.
Im by the pool in Italy so I dont give a monkeys either way

DJRC, I've heard rumour that you're by a pool in Italy. Can you confirm or deny these allegations?


The M25 is indeed now hateful at any hour of the day. It's visibly deteriorated during my short driving career. When I first moved away from home (Surrey) to university (Hertfordshire) I would make the half-lap once or twice a week for various reasons - it was doable in a hair over an hour (even in rush hour if you were lucky) and that was in a Cinquecento. By the time I finished Uni it simply wasn't possible to get round in less than 90 minutes, and average journey time was getting on for 1:45.