Car Transport costs from Italy (monza) to England berkshire

Car Transport costs from Italy (monza) to England berkshire

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Ropps

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715 posts

148 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Does anyone know what will be the cheapest way of getting a car from Italy to England?

I am not looking to drive the car back as I do not have trade plates and the car (UK) car has no MOT etc etc?

Train? Ship?transport courier?

Any suggestions?



DonkeyApple

55,479 posts

170 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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If you've booked an MOT it's ok to drive the car to the test.

Interestingly, there can't be mileage restrictions it must be based on being sensible when choosing where to take the car.

So, is it feasible that booking an MOT somewhere in Dover, seeing as that is your most convenient MOT station, and driving the car there should suffice?

The days of sticking a car on a train in Europe are long gone in terms of getting anywhere relevant to an Englishman. Boats from Med ports to UK must exist but how do you drive the car to a station or port?

Car porters are about a pound per mile so hardly cheap.

What leads you to fervently believe you cannot drive back to England to have it MOTd now that it has run out?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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It's 1,150 km to Calais. Work on €1/km, and you probably won't be a million miles out.

rallycross

12,826 posts

238 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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I've imported used cars from Italy there is no cheaper way than driving or trailering it yourself, mot and reg is irrelevant just insure it on the chassis number and once you land in the Uk drive it to the mot centre where you have made a booking with ( book one near your house and drive there).

What are you buying?
There used to be some great used car bargains in Italy (& rust free) but prices seem to have changed to the point Uk is now lowest in Europe for used cars.

Ropps

Original Poster:

715 posts

148 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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The car was MOT'd last in the 2008. Car has not been registered in Italy so it's a straight purchase in regards to paperwork too.

TVR.

I just had a price of 750 plus vat.. That does not sound to bad. I presume with fuel/and tolls it will cost me 400 to 600 pounds maybe?

R1 Indy

4,382 posts

184 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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That sounds like a bargain, prob cost you that in fuel to drive a TVR back hehe


DonkeyApple

55,479 posts

170 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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R1 Indy said:
That sounds like a bargain, prob cost you that in fuel to drive a TVR back hehe
And if it hasn't driven since 2008 the odds on ending up on a trailer anyway seem pretty good.

996TT02

3,308 posts

141 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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Ropps said:
The car was MOT'd last in the 2008. Car has not been registered in Italy so it's a straight purchase in regards to paperwork too.

TVR.

I just had a price of 750 plus vat.. That does not sound to bad. I presume with fuel/and tolls it will cost me 400 to 600 pounds maybe?
That's realistic.

I get mine taken from much further south to the UK for £600 all-in, so that gives you an idea of what is possible. On a car transporter.

Unfortunately my guys won't work for you as they don't/can't do pick ups on the way (they use the ferry for part of the route) so no point in me supplying details.


Ropps

Original Poster:

715 posts

148 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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Though not registered it has done a few miles in between.. But it is a risk driving back. I have allesandro of tvr Italy going to double check the car over...

So as long as its insured I can drive it back? Is that correct?

996TT02

3,308 posts

141 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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Ropps said:
Though not registered it has done a few miles in between.. But it is a risk driving back. I have allesandro of tvr Italy going to double check the car over...

So as long as its insured I can drive it back? Is that correct?
No, the car needs to be taxed, even overseas, although overseas coppers may not give a hoot about this. However once in the UK if the ANPR cams get you, you are stuffed.

Realistically you need to transport it and it won't be any cheaper to drive back, fuel, tolls, hotels, flights, all stack up.

eltax91

9,897 posts

207 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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996TT02 said:
No, the car needs to be taxed, even overseas, although overseas coppers may not give a hoot about this. However once in the UK if the ANPR cams get you, you are stuffed.

Realistically you need to transport it and it won't be any cheaper to drive back, fuel, tolls, hotels, flights, all stack up.
But surely he can book an MOT and insure it and then drive it from Dover to his MOT station without any tax??

stuart-b

3,643 posts

227 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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996TT02 said:
No, the car needs to be taxed, even overseas, although overseas coppers may not give a hoot about this. However once in the UK if the ANPR cams get you, you are stuffed.

Realistically you need to transport it and it won't be any cheaper to drive back, fuel, tolls, hotels, flights, all stack up.
Sorry not strictly true, the car doesn't need to be taxed or MOT'd. I live abroad and have two cars in Europe.

My insurance certificate expressly states that Tax and MOT is not required for the car to be fully insured.

I do however take one car to an annual registration here just to ensure it's safe. The other I drive back every year as I need to do the trip regardless.

This year I am late and the car I'm driving back needs an MOT, but I have a new tax disc and it's in the window. The MOT station is in my home town, I will drive it straight back there and drop it off.

If the local TVR garage give it a good look over then it may be ok, but those tyres may be too old and cracked for the drive (at least 8+ years old, they probably were not new in 2008 either) I wouldn't risk it without 4 new ones. If you do however, would be a great drive back, but because you don't have a tax disc I would book an MOT in Dover ....

Impasse

15,099 posts

242 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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Why not drive it to Dover and transport it once on UK soil?

rallycross

12,826 posts

238 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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£700 is a good rate, last time I looked into this it was going to be £750 London to Malaga which for a Porsche 928 was cheaper than fuel tolls and a one way flight.

Your insurance will cover you to drive it mot and tax is not a problem abroad then just have it booked for an mot when you land in the uk which covers you on a direct trip to the mot station as long as it's booked in ( don't try this at night ).

It will be fun to drive it back plan a couple of stops to make the most of it and give the old TVR a chance of making it home without too much drama.

996TT02

3,308 posts

141 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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stuart-b said:
Sorry not strictly true, the car doesn't need to be taxed or MOT'd. I live abroad and have two cars in Europe.

My insurance certificate expressly states that Tax and MOT is not required for the car to be fully insured.
But surely that can only be taken at face value, it does not in any way mean that you are legal.

Just read this: https://www.gov.uk/taking-vehicles-out-of-uk/for-l...

Basically it will need trailering in the UK, or chancing.

I am here assuming that the TVR is a previously or currently UK regd vehicle.

If it is on Italian plates then it would need Italian tax etc to be driven there, at least.

As previous countries may not care much about the tax or MOT status of foreign regd cars, but they certainly will for the local ones. Insurance however will be mandatory but that, as you confirm, will not be the main difficulty.

Also assuming the car is a purchase then there may be problems with registration paperwork (V5 or simila), wherever the vehicle is registered, unless the ownership is recorded on the document beforehand. The Italians are particularly anal and quite a few Polizia Stradale it seems, are employed only to while away the time stopping "interesting" vehicles and going through their paperwork.

Transporting solves everything.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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stuart-b said:
Sorry not strictly true, the car doesn't need to be taxed or MOT'd. I live abroad and have two cars in Europe.

My insurance certificate expressly states that Tax and MOT is not required for the car to be fully insured.
Your insurance can say whatever it likes. It doesn't alter the basic principle of mutual recognition - which says that for a visiting vehicle to be used temporarily, it has to be legal for use in the home country.

I'm also quite surprised that your home country, unlike any EU country, allows residents to permanently use foreign-registered vehicles. The UK's fairly typical in regarding temporarily imported as meaning non-resident and <6mo max.

Still, no ex-pat Brits would take the michael regarding the laws, customs and language of their adoptive homes, would they?

nipsips

1,163 posts

136 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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Most UK insurers only give 6 months abroad.

We would get charged about 2k to get that back so £750+vat is cheap!

Ropps

Original Poster:

715 posts

148 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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The Tvr is still UK registered(even after 8 years) I have spoken to VOSA and don't worry all the fines are for the old UK owner... Pheewwwwwwwwww....

So as long as on my return to the UK I can show that I have booked an MOT I should be ok?


stuart-b

3,643 posts

227 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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Ropps said:
The Tvr is still UK registered(even after 8 years) I have spoken to VOSA and don't worry all the fines are for the old UK owner... Pheewwwwwwwwww....

So as long as on my return to the UK I can show that I have booked an MOT I should be ok?
Yes, and obviously with Insurance. If he declared it SORN he won't have any fines. He probably kept it in a garage off the road ( I would hope ). Good luck!

996TT02

3,308 posts

141 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Ropps said:
The Tvr is still UK registered(even after 8 years) I have spoken to VOSA and don't worry all the fines are for the old UK owner... Pheewwwwwwwwww....

So as long as on my return to the UK I can show that I have booked an MOT I should be ok?
This is getting repetitive, but the answer is always NO.

You can NOT drive it in the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/taking-vehicles-out-of-uk/for-l...

See "Bringing your vehicle back untaxed" and if that is not definitive then I don't know what is.

No MOT is not the same as no road tax.

Quite frankly considering that there may be quite rich pickings in the vicinity of Dover, I certainly would not want to chance that.