What 3k diesel estate?

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confused_buyer

6,624 posts

182 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
Wrong.

Im not a complete V40 beard, but there's plenty of Sport Lux models out there with that style of front bumper.

example:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
I'll raise you a beard! The first one isn't a Sport Lux - it is a run out S model with leather.

Joking aside, both the Sport and Lux would have had the spoiler on a 2003 model on from the factory - I've got an old brochure in front of me. What happens is people clonk it and rather than replace they take it off. It is also pretty easy to add a spoiler onto a non-Sport model. It just clips on.

smile


bozmandb9

673 posts

181 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Saab 9-5. Up to 2007 car for that money, or a mint older car. You won't find better value for money.

bodhi

10,549 posts

230 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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white_goodman said:
How about these?



Not as practical as the car it replaced but my dad has mostly owned Peugeots/Citroens for the last 20 years, as he likes the diesel engines, smooth ride and comfy seats.
I wouldn't touch one of these with a stty stick if I'm honest. A friend bought one 3 years ago for the same reasons, and because another friend's 406 was so utterly reliable. About 6 months later a series of posts turned up on Facebook, entitled Man vs Peugeot. Man only won by dropping it off in a scrappy 2 weeks ago.

Don't remember all the specifics, but I recall Turbos, Electrics and clutch problems. That and it got through more fuel than the 328i I had at the time.

mygoldfishbowl

3,707 posts

144 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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bodhi said:
I wouldn't touch one of these with a stty stick if I'm honest. A friend bought one 3 years ago for the same reasons, and because another friend's 406 was so utterly reliable. About 6 months later a series of posts turned up on Facebook, entitled Man vs Peugeot. Man only won by dropping it off in a scrappy 2 weeks ago.

Don't remember all the specifics, but I recall Turbos, Electrics and clutch problems. That and it got through more fuel than the 328i I had at the time.
The same problems as any other car can suffer then. On the other foot I've owned one for about 6 months & haven't had any unexpected problems at all.

y2blade

56,129 posts

216 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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mygoldfishbowl said:
bodhi said:
I wouldn't touch one of these with a stty stick if I'm honest. A friend bought one 3 years ago for the same reasons, and because another friend's 406 was so utterly reliable. About 6 months later a series of posts turned up on Facebook, entitled Man vs Peugeot. Man only won by dropping it off in a scrappy 2 weeks ago.

Don't remember all the specifics, but I recall Turbos, Electrics and clutch problems. That and it got through more fuel than the 328i I had at the time.
The same problems as any other car can suffer then. On the other foot I've owned one for about 6 months & haven't had any unexpected problems at all.
6 months? quick sell it

mygoldfishbowl

3,707 posts

144 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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y2blade said:
6 months? quick sell it
Nah, I like it. smile

GreatGranny

9,128 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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y2blade said:
Although I have currently two 2000 onwards Volvos (and really love Pre-2000 models) I can honestly say I really can't see me buying another newer Volvo when the time come to replace either.

The V40 is a safe bet though as it is an earlier design that has had a long run.
I've had 4 Volvo's, present one is a 59reg S40.
Nice car but I only bought it because it was really cheap from my B in L.
Just doesn't feel as well built as it should.
My 06 XC90 felt very durable but not as bulletprrof as the T reg V70 or the 240 my F in L gave me years ago.

bodhi

10,549 posts

230 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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mygoldfishbowl said:
The same problems as any other car can suffer then. On the other foot I've owned one for about 6 months & haven't had any unexpected problems at all.
Strangley the 330d I had at the time which was 4 years older, had 60k more miles and cost me half as much had none of these. It was also faster, better on fuel, better to drive etc.

If you were confronted with a CC list and it was 407's, Insignias etc I could maybe see the appeal, but buying at 3k when there's such a great choice of Volvos, BMW's Audi's etc? You'd have to be certifiable in my book.

y2blade

56,129 posts

216 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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bodhi said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
The same problems as any other car can suffer then. On the other foot I've owned one for about 6 months & haven't had any unexpected problems at all.
Strangley the 330d I had at the time which was 4 years older, had 60k more miles and cost me half as much had none of these. It was also faster, better on fuel, better to drive etc.

If you were confronted with a CC list and it was 407's, Insignias etc I could maybe see the appeal, but buying at 3k when there's such a great choice of Volvos, BMW's Audi's etc? You'd have to be certifiable in my book.
I didn't want to mention the "A" word. However you have, so I'll speak openly, I love mine and odds on it'll be another of the same brand that will replace the S60 when the time comes.


manmaths

452 posts

141 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Interesting read.

Owned a 407 for 3 years. It was my 1st "non-performance" car necessitated by a high mileage job. Not bad overall. 2006, but no dpf problems (lots of motorway miles though). It did have a few electrical gremlins which amounted to approx once a month it would beep a fault code for ABS, cruise control, and traction control - but all were fine! Needed a clutch and DMFW. Other than that totally reliable.

Bought an 05 (non dpf) Mazda 6 diesel estate to replace (peugeot was saloon) and it's been pretty reliable too. have owned it for 18months and now approaching 100k.

Have you considered looking at these?

rosscobmw

350 posts

159 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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I've got a 1.9d V40 sport with 199,000 miles. Still going strong. I'm getting rid soon though for something bigger, hopefully a D5 V70.
The V40 is nice but is just too small now that i have a wee boy. Once the buggies in the boot, theres not much room for much else.
If you are considering one, look our for wiring issues, mainly the headlights. Mine suffered from the very common knackered wiring loom which runs under the radiator. First symptom is a headlight not working. Then my car immobilised itself. I spend about 3 hours re-wiring about 40 wires.
Also headlights not working can be the CDM Module.
Basically, check the lights when buying.

mygoldfishbowl

3,707 posts

144 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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bodhi said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
The same problems as any other car can suffer then. On the other foot I've owned one for about 6 months & haven't had any unexpected problems at all.
Strangley the 330d I had at the time which was 4 years older, had 60k more miles and cost me half as much had none of these. It was also faster, better on fuel, better to drive etc.

If you were confronted with a CC list and it was 407's, Insignias etc I could maybe see the appeal, but buying at 3k when there's such a great choice of Volvos, BMW's Audi's etc? You'd have to be certifiable in my book.
Your friend bought a bad car which is easily done, I did it myself when I bought that awful Astra a couple of years ago but you can't judge a whole range of cars because of one lemon. For a £3000 Audi, for example, you could be buying the years that they had a lot of expensive troubles with oil pump drives.

I looked at A4s & others but they were all high mileage & older for the money I was willing to spend & when I did a bit of research is when I found out about the oil pump drives etc. My 407 came along at the right time for the right money so wasn't planned as such but when I researched them I couldn't find any major issues other than the usual things problematic with all makes. They are a lot of car for the money.

va1o

16,032 posts

208 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Again are you not just better of getting the newer car and buying a Volvo V50 if that's the sort of thing he wants? Loads on Autotrader for under £3k. Uses Ford Focus mechanicals so the reliability is very much a known quantity.

confused_buyer

6,624 posts

182 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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va1o said:
Again are you not just better of getting the newer car and buying a Volvo V50 if that's the sort of thing he wants? Loads on Autotrader for under £3k. Uses Ford Focus mechanicals so the reliability is very much a known quantity.
V50's are a fair bit more complicated to fix (i.e. more expensive) than the V40 if they go wrong. The engine is the same as the Pug 407 and needs a new DPF at 72k which many people do not do until they go pop at 100k, key gives issues, integrated stereo often plays up etc. Whilst the basic bits are Ford the electrics and other bits are all bespoke.

The V40's are less modern, but for older tech read less to go wrong and cheaper to run once they get into bargain basement price range.

y2blade

56,129 posts

216 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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confused_buyer said:
va1o said:
Again are you not just better of getting the newer car and buying a Volvo V50 if that's the sort of thing he wants? Loads on Autotrader for under £3k. Uses Ford Focus mechanicals so the reliability is very much a known quantity.
V50's are a fair bit more complicated to fix (i.e. more expensive) than the V40 if they go wrong. The engine is the same as the Pug 407 and needs a new DPF at 72k which many people do not do until they go pop at 100k, key gives issues, integrated stereo often plays up etc. Whilst the basic bits are Ford the electrics and other bits are all bespoke.

The V40's are less modern, but for older tech read less to go wrong and cheaper to run once they get into bargain basement price range.
Well said Confused_Buyer.
va1o:Newer Volvos are not so good, if you won't take our word for it take a look at the owners forums

CPC

375 posts

204 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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I may end up regretting this but I have just bought a 2004 (facelift) Alfa 156 Sportwagon with the 1.9 Multijet engine for £750, it's done 100k with long mot, recent cambelt and FSH...

I have also just sorted some decent break down cover out!

y2blade

56,129 posts

216 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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CPC said:
I may end up regretting this but I have just bought a 2004 (facelift) Alfa 156 Sportwagon with the 1.9 Multijet engine for £750, it's done 100k with long mot, recent cambelt and FSH...

I have also just sorted some decent break down cover out!
Fantastic, post some pics please cool

CPC

375 posts

204 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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y2blade said:
Fantastic, post some pics please cool


Just needs a good polish and it should be fairly tidy, also have a towbar for it aswell



y2blade

56,129 posts

216 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Lovely, don't listen to half the scaremongers....I know a few with Alfas, they are better than Vauxhalls

I'd have an Alfa yes

mygoldfishbowl

3,707 posts

144 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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y2blade said:
Lovely, don't listen to half the scaremongers....I know a few with Alfas, they are better than Vauxhalls

I'd have an Alfa yes
Some of them have the same gearboxes which are made of jam. Ask me how I know smile