RE: TVR Sagaris: PH Carpool
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dukebox9reg said:
Impressed with the mileage. Guess shows not all TVRs deserve getting branded with the same unreliability label.
Can't imagine many cars at this level would have required that little over that time.
You'd be surprised.Can't imagine many cars at this level would have required that little over that time.
Similar to what mine has had, although I am barely run in on 80000.
Plenty of other high milers (in TVR terms) out there.
Amirhussain said:
Is the Sagaris the daddy of all TVRs?
That's a topic that could be debated all day Amir because there were several 'almost' models which many TVRists would love to own such as the Speed 12, Cerbera Speed 12, T440R / Typhon etc that were wet-dream material.The Sagaris though was certainly the last new type they produced and the most mental looking road car. It was as fast as any other production model (i.e. joint fastest), fairly user-friendly and had better quality control than some others. It was widely reported by the journos to be the one which handled the best as-built. With decent dampers and a proper geometry set up they can all handle well, but the Sagaris worked well 'out of the box'.
It's easily the most sought after and valuable production model. Fundamentally they were pretty much the same under the skin as any other T-car (Tamora/Tuscan/T350) chassis and running gear - which makes all the other models an absolute bargain given that they can all be as good as a Sagaris if you hand them over to a decent specialist with a modest budget to sort out the handling and what have you.
dlockhart said:
Is a diff rebuild a common thing or is it fairly unique to this owner?
this man has balls because
1.) he bought a tvr at the stage the company was in trouble
2.) hes done approx. 20k per year in a hardcore sports car
With TVRs in general (most late models using a BTR differential) it's not unheard of, but not common. By that I mean you would not expect to have to do it as you would a clutch in one of these, but you wouldn't fall off your seat either if it needs done.this man has balls because
1.) he bought a tvr at the stage the company was in trouble
2.) hes done approx. 20k per year in a hardcore sports car
Providing you get it sorted before you completely trash it, it's not particularly expensive to do either. If you can afford to buy and run the car generally, the low chance of a relatively inexpensive diff rebuild shouldn't be something to lose any sleep over.
The trouble with the Tamora/Tuscan/T350 is that they don't look like the Sagaris, though the t350's not far off (Sagaris is definitely my favourite and the one TVR I would loveto own and I echo JDMDrifter, much-o jealous).
side note - The Tuscan is still a great looking car mind, wouldn't say no to anyone of them.
side note - The Tuscan is still a great looking car mind, wouldn't say no to anyone of them.
james_gt3rs said:
Article said:
"In winter it takes an age for the oil to warm up - my record is all the way from London to Manchester!
Eh? 
The difference is that many TVRs have been fitted with an oil temperature gauge to compliment the oil pressure and water temperature gauges, so you actually become aware of this common reality whereas in most cars you only have a water temperature gauge (if you're lucky) and a red "Engine f
ked" light.jamieduff1981 said:
Amirhussain said:
Is the Sagaris the daddy of all TVRs?
That's a topic that could be debated all day Amir because there were several 'almost' models which many TVRists would love to own such as the Speed 12, Cerbera Speed 12, T440R / Typhon etc that were wet-dream material.The Sagaris though was certainly the last new type they produced and the most mental looking road car. It was as fast as any other production model (i.e. joint fastest), fairly user-friendly and had better quality control than some others. It was widely reported by the journos to be the one which handled the best as-built. With decent dampers and a proper geometry set up they can all handle well, but the Sagaris worked well 'out of the box'.
It's easily the most sought after and valuable production model. Fundamentally they were pretty much the same under the skin as any other T-car (Tamora/Tuscan/T350) chassis and running gear - which makes all the other models an absolute bargain given that they can all be as good as a Sagaris if you hand them over to a decent specialist with a modest budget to sort out the handling and what have you.
jamieduff1981 said:
TVRs have oil coolers but there's no flow control as per water coolant systems with thermostats (nothing usual there). In winter, all the oil still goes through the oil cooler whether it needs it or not (again not unusual for cars with oil coolers) so the oil can be over cooled driving gently in cold temperatures meaning it doesn't get up to temperature very easily.
The difference is that many TVRs have been fitted with an oil temperature gauge to compliment the oil pressure and water temperature gauges, so you actually become aware of this common reality whereas in most cars you only have a water temperature gauge (if you're lucky) and a red "Engine fked" light.
Cant an oil thermostat switch/plate be fitted to bypass the cooler when the oil is cold?? The difference is that many TVRs have been fitted with an oil temperature gauge to compliment the oil pressure and water temperature gauges, so you actually become aware of this common reality whereas in most cars you only have a water temperature gauge (if you're lucky) and a red "Engine f
ked" light.
Andy665 said:
Great story, seems to me that the biggest issues with TVRs seems to be a general lack of use, I'm a great believer that the more regularly a car is used the less troublesome it is
Indeed. Most TVR owners will concur that they are no less reliable than anything else (of similar age) if properly maintained. And, the more they are used the better they seem to be...jamieduff1981 said:
TVRs have oil coolers but there's no flow control as per water coolant systems with thermostats (nothing usual there). In winter, all the oil still goes through the oil cooler whether it needs it or not (again not unusual for cars with oil coolers) so the oil can be over cooled driving gently in cold temperatures meaning it doesn't get up to temperature very easily.
The difference is that many TVRs have been fitted with an oil temperature gauge to compliment the oil pressure and water temperature gauges, so you actually become aware of this common reality whereas in most cars you only have a water temperature gauge (if you're lucky) and a red "Engine fked" light.
Thanks for explaining. Are there any other cars you know of with this problem (I've never come across it!)The difference is that many TVRs have been fitted with an oil temperature gauge to compliment the oil pressure and water temperature gauges, so you actually become aware of this common reality whereas in most cars you only have a water temperature gauge (if you're lucky) and a red "Engine f
ked" light.james_gt3rs said:
jamieduff1981 said:
TVRs have oil coolers but there's no flow control as per water coolant systems with thermostats (nothing usual there). In winter, all the oil still goes through the oil cooler whether it needs it or not (again not unusual for cars with oil coolers) so the oil can be over cooled driving gently in cold temperatures meaning it doesn't get up to temperature very easily.
The difference is that many TVRs have been fitted with an oil temperature gauge to compliment the oil pressure and water temperature gauges, so you actually become aware of this common reality whereas in most cars you only have a water temperature gauge (if you're lucky) and a red "Engine fked" light.
Thanks for explaining. Are there any other cars you know of with this problem (I've never come across it!)The difference is that many TVRs have been fitted with an oil temperature gauge to compliment the oil pressure and water temperature gauges, so you actually become aware of this common reality whereas in most cars you only have a water temperature gauge (if you're lucky) and a red "Engine f
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