"Sleeper" Cars

[tdigaz]

I know it's more of an american thing and it's not often talked about over here, but just wondering what peoples thoughts are on sleeper cars?

Personally never liked the idea of having a slow & old looking car with huge performance, but after thinking about it that wolf in sheep's clothing effect would be cool.

Thoughts?

[LukeR94]

Ford do a Mondeo estate with the Focus ST engine in, think its called a Titanium X or something, always though they are pretty cool.

[ezi]

I love the idea of having one, can't think of much that'd be more fun

[Leins]

When did these stop being known as Q-cars?

[jimbobsimmonds]

Can't imagine driving anything else other than a sleeper. certainly better than having a 2.0 diesel with s-line or M body kits.

Those kinds of cars remind me off the kid from the Inbetweeners who is going on about how many sorts they shagged last weekend but when it actually comes down to it he's not all that when it comes to pulling. I'd rather be the quiet, average looking bloke we all know that somehow always pulls...

you don't look a threat so people don't challenge you on the road, but every now and then it is fun to watcg people when thry think 'wtf just happened there?'.

[LukeR94]

jimbobsimmonds said:

Can't imagine driving anything else other than a sleeper. certainly better than having a 2.0 diesel with s-line or M body kits.

Those kinds of cars remind me off the kid from the Inbetweeners who is going on about how many sorts they shagged last weekend but when it actually comes down to it he's not all that when it comes to pulling. I'd rather be the quiet, average looking bloke we all know that somehow always pulls...

you don't look a threat so people don't challenge you on the road, but every now and then it is fun to watcg people when thry think 'wtf just happened there?'.

Some people just like the top spec that isnt a raving mad hot hatch.

(S-Line owner) feel cringy writing that.

[R6VED]

Again....really?

[Dave Hedgehog]

Leins said:

When did these stop being known as Q-cars?

Both terms are valid, it comes from q ships

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship

Most normal people can not tell a AMG / M / RS cars from the normal stuff

[IntriguedUser]

Corsa C with a Z20LET

225 BHP

I still wouldn't say that's a sleeper. I have upgraded suspension/brakes and other supporting modifications. Its a sleeper in a sense, I can't figure out how, as I don't particularly know the true definition of a sleeper. Bit embarrassing getting blown to pieces by 225bhp and 1000kg in a Corsa, then stopping at the next lights with your Mrs in the car, Ha. It's not a sleeper because its fast, its a sleeper because its a Vauxhall Corsa which is unsuspecting. I have figured it out, unsuspecting? Obviously that's the whole point of a sleeper, but peopel are sheep and badge snobs, so a BMW/Mercedez/Audi wouldn't have the same SHOCK factor, because people think they're fast because of the Badges. Corsa is known as a learners car, learners, ha!

Mondeo ST220
Audi A3 3.2 Quatrro

Those are two cars with looks basic, especially the A3, I'd class those as sleepers.

[Silent1]

LukeR94 said:

Ford do a Mondeo estate with the Focus ST engine in, think its called a Titanium X or something, always though they are pretty cool.

I came up against a remapped one the other night, he'd even put diesel badges on it, it wasn't until I slowed to turn of that I heard the dump valve and exhaust that I realised it wasn't an epic diesel! I blame that on the fact it was 2am

[buggalugs]

It's not just about winning some traffic light dick wag, cars full of spoilers and badges attract certain kinds of attention, both positive and negative, having the performance without the attention is very enticing!

[oobie38]

Ah, I'd always thought a q car was as she came from the factory, so there'd normally be some indication that things weren't quite as they seemed- a spoiler, tyres and arches etc, but a sleeper was where the car had been modified by the owner, often without modifying the rest of the car- i.e. you couldn't really tell that it was hot.

[oobie38]

Ah, I'd always thought a q car was as she came from the factory, so there'd normally be some indication that things weren't quite as they seemed- a spoiler, tyres and arches etc, but a sleeper was where the car had been modified by the owner, often without modifying the rest of the car- i.e. you couldn't really tell that it was hot.

[mackie1]

Merc E500 5.5 in non sport spec is a good example of a factory q car

[DanielSan]

Best sleeper I've seen recently was a mk4 Astra van on Facebook the other day, shabby blue bodywork, steelies, and a 400bhp Astra VXR under the bonnet.

[Vyse]

None of the cars mentioned are sleepers. This is a sleeper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dElFiQcLsp8

[Motorrad]

First Mazda 3 mps looks like something your Nan would drive to the supermarket.

One of the most recent sleepers I can think of.



I'd have one, map it to near 300bhp and ps off S line 4 pot diesel w@nkers.

[DaveH23]

0-60 in 5.9 seconds and more torque than a ferarri 360

Id say it qualifies as a Q car.

[Axionknight]

Love 'em, I had a Volvo 850 T5R, black, manual estate - it ruled, on decent rubber it was a right laugh off of the line and when a few mild mods were added to the equation it really did pick its heels up.

[ging84]

a sleeper doesn't have to be old, in fact if it's too old it detracts from it's sleeperness as it's meant to be the complete opposite of a head turner, old vehicles in this country at least stick out like a saw thumb.