New as possible or lower miles?

New as possible or lower miles?

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eddy02

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283 posts

126 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Got the hots for a Volvo V70 D5 estate at the moment to replace our reliable but boring,MOT test failure CRV.
Seen an 07 plate with 135k or one owner 03 plate with 78k,FVSH.
Is it just plate snobbery to want the later car or does it make sense to get one with lower miles?
(Not actually had a physical look at one yet,might hate the driving position etc as I am a big bloke).

DrDeAtH

3,588 posts

233 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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The one in the best condition, with history would be the best bet.

BenMk3

245 posts

165 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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What's the price difference, out of interest? I'd buy on condition but from what you've said the older one sounds like a better buy

MagneticMeerkat

1,763 posts

206 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Lower mileage! It doesn't matter how well a car has been maintained; the more miles it does the more wear and tear to, well, everything. My car is nearly eighteen years old but has done 64,000 miles in that time! As a result it still feels nice and smooth, everything works and so on.

Mileage takes its toll on each component; including the rubber bits and screws that never get replaced. Double the mileage is double the amount of wear on the engine, but also double the suspension bounces, double the amount of use of the electronics, double the stones hitting the front end ad infinitum.

philmots

4,632 posts

261 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Is there nothing in the middle ground?

I'd personally get the latest 163hp one you can with a manual gearbox. The later 185's are all DPF's which is just more to go wrong.

Huntsman

8,080 posts

251 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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MagneticMeerkat said:
Lower mileage! It doesn't matter how well a car has been maintained; the more miles it does the more wear and tear to, well, everything. My car is nearly eighteen years old but has done 64,000 miles in that time! As a result it still feels nice and smooth, everything works and so on.

Mileage takes its toll on each component; including the rubber bits and screws that never get replaced. Double the mileage is double the amount of wear on the engine, but also double the suspension bounces, double the amount of use of the electronics, double the stones hitting the front end ad infinitum.
Exaclty, my 17 year old Jag is on 52k miles and still in perfect order.

PaulG40

2,381 posts

226 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Conversely, I bought my car (V reg) with one owner, 50k miles on it, FSH, thinking brilliant, low mileage it'll be a good un. Ok, the engine is tip top (I do 6 monthly oil changes) but everything else has just fallen apart with age. Owner had never changed anything on it as barely drove it, so when I started to put miles on it, suspension, fuel pump, seized brake caliper, clutch all started to go wrong.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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MagneticMeerkat said:
Lower mileage! It doesn't matter how well a car has been maintained; the more miles it does the more wear and tear to, well, everything. My car is nearly eighteen years old but has done 64,000 miles in that time! As a result it still feels nice and smooth, everything works and so on.

Mileage takes its toll on each component; including the rubber bits and screws that never get replaced. Double the mileage is double the amount of wear on the engine, but also double the suspension bounces, double the amount of use of the electronics, double the stones hitting the front end ad infinitum.
Bullshine!!! So a taxi that never leaves town with 30k won't be as worn as a commuters car the same age that trundles up and down the motorway with 60k???
For the op it depends what the annual mileage is going to be !! If its small then a low mileage car can be a waste of money , as a newer car for the same money with higher mileage is worth more in a few years when the mileage averages
Out...

HaloGen8

1,413 posts

130 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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There's pros & cons but based on what you've put forward the one owner FVSH has to be the one to go for. Looked after and hopefully loved by the same driver for a loooong time.

Go for it. Great cars.

IanCress

4,409 posts

167 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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With the V70, the newer the better. 53 plate and newer cars had improved electronics and benefit from a facelift making them looking more modern.

Personally i'd be going for the newer higher mileage car.

I do find it quite amusing though that you're after something less boring than a CRV, and are going for a V70. I owned a V70 and whilst it was refined, comfortable and well equipped, I certainly wouldn't class it as 'fun'. Unless you put a mattress in the boot.

eddy02

Original Poster:

283 posts

126 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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IanCress said:
With the V70, the newer the better. 53 plate and newer cars had improved electronics and benefit from a facelift making them looking more modern.

Personally i'd be going for the newer higher mileage car.

I do find it quite amusing though that you're after something less boring than a CRV, and are going for a V70. I owned a V70 and whilst it was refined, comfortable and well equipped, I certainly wouldn't class it as 'fun'. Unless you put a mattress in the boot.
Perhaps less boring was a poor choice of words,what about nicer?
My car history is as long as your arm (65 at the last countrolleyes)and having bought an auto Omega to run about in for a few weeks I am liking the large automatic car waftiness.
fk me I must be getting old if I am dreaming about a Volvo estate.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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It's all about condition really. I've been test driving various cars that I've been looking to buy and I've been shocked at how baggy and fked a lot of 6 year old, low mileage, one owner from new cars have been. I am tending to avoid higher mileage cars if I'm spending any real money though, because despite the beardy "modern cars will to a trillion miles with just routine maintenance" I have personally had much more ballache and expense with higher mileage cars.

kambites

67,608 posts

222 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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DrDeAtH said:
The one in the best condition, with history would be the best bet.
yes Condition and service history (not routing servicing so much that anything which is likely to fail soon has been replaced) is far more important than age or mileage IMO.

ChocolateFrog

25,551 posts

174 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Older autos can throw up a few problems. One to bear in mind.

ben5732

763 posts

157 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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I'd go for the 07 personally knowing the pre facelift certainly had a few issues. I've got an 08 plate phase 2 T5 I've owned for 2.5 years and I've only had to spend 100 quid in repairing it bearing in mind its on 190k now it's doing pretty well.

eddy02

Original Poster:

283 posts

126 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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ChocolateFrog said:
Older autos can throw up a few problems. One to bear in mind.
That is the one thing that has been causing me to have doubts,as much as I like automatics I know they can go expensively wrong.

Rawhide

964 posts

214 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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philmots said:
Is there nothing in the middle ground?

I'd personally get the latest 163hp one you can with a manual gearbox. The later 185's are all DPF's which is just more to go wrong.
I agree. A 2004 facelift car with the euro3 engine is the best car. Better economy, cheaper tax, less complex engine.

I have one and it's been very good for the last 40k. Knocking on 135k and the autobox was a bit problematic but fluid flushes made a massive difference.